00:57:57 stan reichardt: What about SpinRite maintance software from GRC.COM developer Steve Gibson? 00:59:35 Grant T.: Two different types of media. 01:01:36 Grant T.: Zip drive “Click of Death" 01:02:25 stan reichardt: Granite with chisel and hammer. 01:05:30 stan reichardt: Question for later: How hard is it to TEST your backups? 01:06:39 Grant T.: ProTip: Test your /RESTORE/. 01:11:07 stan reichardt: I believe Unbuntu doens 01:12:14 Ron BC: I have to agree with Canonical that CDDL & GPL are similar enough in spirit. And kudos to Canonical for taking the risk. 01:12:25 stan reichardt: I believe Unbuntu doesn't auto matically provicde such CODECs; but, gives you an option to download them from somewhere else. 01:13:40 stan reichardt: A thousand lawyers at the bottom of the sea is a good start. 01:16:50 Gary Meyer: Ubuntu was the first major Linux distro to embrace ZFS, despite the tangle of issues around its licensing.Jan 22, 2023 The Future of ZFS on Ubuntu Desktop is Not Looking Good omgubuntu.co.uk https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk › ubuntu-zfs-support-status ====================================Being licensed under the CDDL, and thus incompatible with GPL, it is not possible for ZFS to be distributed along with the Linux Kernel. 01:19:35 Grant T.: Google is -> was a bad steward for the Deja News archive 01:19:48 Gary Meyer: Another opinion....some months older but from Linus himself... 01:20:16 Gary Meyer: Why is Linus Torvalds warning kernel developers against using ZFS kernel code on Linux? This is being done to avoid legal entanglements with Oracle Corporation.Jul 18, 2022        Why is ZFS not in the Linux kernel? 01:25:07 Gary Meyer: The above about Linus' opinion is at https://www.quora.com/Why-is-ZFS-not-in-the-Linux-kernel#:~:text=90sAuthor%20has-,Why%20is%20Linus%20Torvalds%20warning%20kernel%20developers%20against%20using%20ZFS,legal%20entanglements%20with%20Oracle%20Corporation. 01:31:43 Ron BC: I think Ubuntu is back to supporting ZFS in the installer 01:31:54 Grant T.: Reacted to "I think Ubuntu is ba..." with 🎉 01:32:49 Grant T.: Automatic mount is a per data-set option and is on by default. 01:35:28 Alexander Domain: Do you know where exactly are those logs located? 01:37:42 Ron BC: zfs set copies 2 <-- is different from mirroring / RAID1? 01:49:12 Ron BC: Okay, which one of you guys is Allan Jude and which one of you is Jim Salter? Reveal yourselves! 01:49:29 Alexander Domain: Reacted to "Okay, which one of..." with 😂 01:52:37 Ron BC: Sparse files 02:01:14 Grant T.: I know people that have done snapshots every hour. I’ve heard of people doing snapshots once a minute. 02:11:03 Ron BC: ZFS does block level snapshots: a 10GB file with a few bytes changed will only get, say, 1 4kb block updated. Very efficient, especially for using network to send snapshots 02:11:18 Grant T.: Reacted to "ZFS does block level..." with 👍 02:14:06 Ron BC: I lean towards snapshots as being backups 02:24:54 Alexander Domain: Why not also encrypt the zfs pools? 02:25:03 Grant T.: Reacted to "Why not also encrypt..." with 👍 02:26:36 Grant T.: Is Rustic using File System in User Space (FSUS)? 02:36:22 Grant T.: Test your backups while testing audio and video. 😉 02:36:42 stan reichardt: What is best way to test? 02:37:01 Grant T.: It depends.™️ 02:37:19 Grant T.: I have opinions on how to touch on monitoring and liveness. 02:44:39 Grant T.: Which is more stable, a 4 drive raid 0 / 1 or 1 / 0 combination -or- raid 6? 02:44:45 Grant T.: 😈 02:50:01 Sean T.: I just sent the slides for last Wednesday's ASCIINEMA talk and tonight's talk to editor@sluug.org 02:51:04 stan reichardt: Ten minute warning. We can keep going, if we want. 02:52:32 The Bat Cave!: https://www.orangecomputers.com/ 02:52:47 The Bat Cave!: https://epcusa.com/ 02:53:51 Gary Meyer: And, our beloved editor will try to get it out onto the archive soon. (But remember, it is holiday time and it may take an extra day or so.... send email to editor@ sluug.org if you need to "nudge us". 02:54:03 Grant T.: Reacted to "And, our beloved edi..." with 👍 02:57:39 Grant T.: I have a comment about. Asciinema, follow up from recent presentation.