Alright. Go ahead and No agenda changes. Cool, cool.
Got it.
Steer come Monday August 20 eighth for September Go for it, Sam.
Do we have any agenda changes? I don't think so.
I don't know why you ask.
Yeah. The recording started, yes.
You start yours.
Yep.
Hmm.
6 28.
Hmm.
Dave's here. Lee's here. Maybe Gary later Me and Steve Stegman. Chant sent a message he won't be here.
I don't know who else might. Hi, I had asked if he'd.
But he's not gonna be here, so. All access recording secretary. There is a Treasury port.
$9 and 27 cents. What's the domain thing?
Yeah.
Okay. Okay. Any other comments about the Treasury report?
Okay.
Nope, calendar report. As of the end of August. How was able to go back and and add the the June and July numbers.
Last time around, my system had blown out before I could put a, in, and had a Numbers all on the other system and then I I went back and got them and there's a number through the calendar.
So about. About steady there, around 300. Pretty good average compared to But back in 2011 is varied from a hundred.
220 or so. Entries on the calendar. A lot of that stuff is anymore it's out of town things.
Any comments on the calendar?
Thank you. Do good work, Stan.
Gary does a lot of the empty entries.
I just correct them.
Subscriber counts. So, end of August.
Let's see. Yeah. Need up thing pretty steady increase announces about the same. Hmm.
We haven't lost anything there and the discuss is about the same. I added,
Various alternate email account to the Steercom list and this is adamant was that's where the being those numbers had gone up.
Hello, they've stayed the same.
Okay.
I could, like I said, I put in the numbers for June, July, and August.
He added, email addresses. And all in all, I think that meetup.com, monthly increases are mostly phony.
And I don't think anybody else is going to dispute that.
Attendance accounts.
Oh, fairly decent numbers. We had, what is that? 1, 2, 3, 4.
Oh, figure that out later. But,
The SWAC meeting, and we had 7, St. Louis main meeting, we had 18, the Linux group meeting, we had 17 and then I had 10 people show up at the new lug meeting.
Awesome. Mostly some people have been coming regular.
Cool.
Oh, pretty. Pretty steady.
Very attendances.
Are you guys pretty much seeing on mentors anybody? Okay.
Pop, it's not necessarily meant. It's everything, you know, wine zip command line.
It's all the same. Yeah. You wind up doing some configuration problems.
Yeah.
Or it's all over the place. It's free format. So whatever the Somebody asked some some of the guys that are new to come in they're kind of shy And, you know, sometimes they have like a sound problem or something in it.
Yeah, and they don't they don't know enough to tell you what's what they're seeing on the screen, you know, oh, I had an error this morning and it didn't work right since and What was the air?
I don't know. It's just an error message. Well, okay. A lot of help that is.
Yeah.
You know, so did you reboot since then? No, I didn't do that.
Well, try it, see if that works, you know, boom, you know, maybe it sometimes that brings it up, but just like everything else.
It's just like some of the guys that post on discuss, you know. Like to some guy posted something this morning the first thing I wanted to do if I was going to go back to him was well what operating system you know what distro are you on are you on I assume you're on Linux what distro you know And, and, and he said, he was, the guy was, had a problem with
the characters or something like that. Characters in what? In a word processor in a VI then, Emax put to, you know, what?
Okay.
. With I thought it was Kerry. Okay, he's a BSD head, isn't he?
It was Carrie, yeah. Yeah. The mainframe. Not a bit, you know.
Each of the mainstream world and he complains about, you know, whatever. But no, he's not necessarily a BSD guy.
But you know, I don't know what distro he was running and if it was you know, and he's where was the issue?
Was it in something he was trying to do at the command line? It was something he's trying to do in an editor, he didn't say.
And before I could get back to him some other guy that must have knew kind of what he was talking about.
Kind of throughout a solution it seemed to you know Started the whole progress, of the discussion, whatever.
But, you know. I always have 5 questions. I always, before I could get in, somebody else had started the conversation so I just left it alone.
Yeah.
Usual.
The Slack meetings and and newcomer meetings are about the same. Okay, last month or the first part of this month.
I did the base session, then side by side presentation and they did. Any comments about that?
Hi, very informative.
Okay.
I did try to present a whole bunch of things, a them diff and then side by side editing with the VI, O options and things like that.
And I think I did a little, I think I did a little more, demonstrations than I usually do.
So which worked out pretty good. Nice. All in all, it. Didn't go exactly as I intended it too, but it but in some respects it was a lot better than I than I thought it would be.
And it flowed kinda nice. I don't know what anybody else thought about it.
And then the main presentation, Lee, you did this hot restore of the Mysql database.
I thought that was pretty good. Okay.
Yeah, it was it was a lot of fun actually doing it for doing having enough time to do it.
Good line.
Yeah.
I thought it was and it was exactly the kind of thing I was hoping that you would have given. Get a lot of the broad information and it's something I plan on going back and looking at.
A couple of times later on when I'm messing around with some stuff. So. Okay.
I think it'd be a real good reference to. And then for the St. Louis, Linux group, we had the New Shell thing, Ed Holland and Robert Siddick.
Might have been along our longest recorded meeting yet. Okay.
Yeah, that's cause nobody ran us out.
Yeah.
Yeah, and I think I pleaded with you to the end of meeting because I was starting to run out of daylight, you know, or energy.
We did remember to solicit help for pending operation system upgrade for the Debian 10 on Bach this fall.
Right.
Which was good. I don't know. Did you get any offline responses from anybody? In the
Not on that, but Mike. Mike made some good comments about what to look out for. You know, we've, yeah, we've been pulled.
Mike Night?
He was post to stuff and we've been chatting on sysadmin about it.
Yeah.
His main concern, which I probably agree with is mailman, you know, mailman probably. 60 70% of all the traffic on the website.
Yeah. Yeah, and I'm, I'm totally dependent on a slug email. I really, and the way we're functioning with it, it, you know, I just.
I can't imagine how we would do stuff otherwise. Really? And Gary's still not there, is he?
Yeah, God. Oh, I just. Yeah.
Not yet. Okay. You may have stopped because somebody, I don't know.
Yeah. Yeah, some
Yeah, some technical questions. It's a new log the other last week.
That Really? Good have Use, Bill.
Expertise. But he left early in Yeah, next week's slug meeting.
Hope you're gonna wind up.
Here it comes.
I really hope that
Bill.
I think he got lost between the stairs and my desk.
Huh. That would be no surprise. God.
Hey,
Yeah.
Oh! No, no
Somebody's getting good background. Who doing that? Steve? Okay.
Oh.
Dave, are you okay?
I. Hmm.
That show I'm logged out with another device. I think you may be having Town problems.
Oh, okay. Yeah, I no longer see the the text. Subtitles.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Well, you, yeah, I turn it off, but she had, I hit the button again and turned it back on.
I'm not seeing it anyway.
Oh. Do you have the button?
Okay.
No. Well, yes, I do. Up at the top, they moved it again. Oh no.
Okay.
Nice. Gary, can you hear me?
No.
And thanks so. We just went through, all the meetings and did you have any comments about the The base meeting.
Topic. Then side by side. And the the My Sequel Data, database restore that Lee did.
Or the new shell thing that Ed Holland and and Robert Sick that did.
. And
Yeah. Oh yeah, okay, I know how it is.
Loved him, hated her. I know. No, let's see. I love the, them side by side that that was one of those that just falls in that perfect category.
Okay.
Thank you.
Okay, it's not. You know, brand new material. But dang is it useful and it's one of those things it's just so easy to have forgotten that you may have once known it or heard about it.
Okay.
So yeah. Those are always just the great ones to to pick up. The, the reloading the, Bysql database.
Also really Good information to to have and know how to do. So that was a a great talk.
And then the other one was a side-tech and holler. Embarrassingly enough, I still have not watched the video of that.
Oh.
Okay. Okay.
Okay.
I forgot what I had that night, but I could not make it that night and I was gonna watch the video and I have it.
Hey.
I reminds me of an open source version of Power Shop.
Got so much crap in there that You know, it's like a a programming language.
Yeah.
Okay. Oh, we're not at the point. We're here tonight.
At least kind of sort of. So some of us were more here than others. Sorry about that. I, I, I stopped and got a quick COVID test before I came just to.
Like you do that.
To be sure. Because I've, really was feeling like crap. Early yesterday and the night before and so I figured okay I was pretty sure I knew what it was I think it was.
Just the pollen bloomed and so that's what it felt like. I suddenly started sneezing my damn cool head off and, and then I just congested as hell yesterday, but, that suddenly occurred to me, you know, It could be COVID, I guess.
So I figured I should test before I came over and both. Pollinated the bat cave here but let's see if that means good right Depends where there's one line too.
Yeah, cute.
No, it was okay, so I don't have.
Okay. Otherwise you wouldn't shown up there tonight, right?
Otherwise, I wouldn't have shown up there tonight, but yes.
Okay. Hmm.
Oh good.
Next week, the Slack meeting, we're just expecting some new, Linux guys to show up and ask Phil some questions.
Okay.
I hope he's there. So, Steve, are you gonna be doing, the anything for the base?
Maine.
I don't think anybody asked me to do anything, did they? I missed some.
Oh, yeah, I guess so. Lee was supposed to be checking on you. That I guess he forgot to check on you.
Okay, you were gonna be doing something about Emacs.
Cool.
Or not.
Hello? I don't mind doing it.
Does anybody remember what the subject was gonna be?
Just how to start using learnt the very basics of how to start getting into Emacs. You did such a real good job with your last presentation.
Okay.
We kind of thought that the the you know beginning. You know. If somebody wants to, somebody's, he's, he's a programmer and he says, I heard that you ought to be using Emacs if you're going to be programming.
Well, why? Okay, kind of built in and you know it does stuck with Air messages, right?
I don't know. That's kind of what I heard. You know?
Yeah.
Well, it functions. It functions as an IDE. I think it was probably the first IDE.
I was using it back in.
Yeah, well, it, you know. Okay.
Very last part of the 19 eighties. And I always ran, always ran a debugger inside of it, you know, and if you wanted to look at this structure, you could do that.
You know, all that stuff. It wasn't all graphics. We were doing it on a VT 200, and 20 terminal.
You know, it was all text.
Good meeting is being recorded.
Yes.
Hmm. And yes, Lee, you do have to use Control keys.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Okay.
Well, I mean, I'm not pushing it if you know, if you killed it, you could do it, you know, or we might find Gary, can we find something else?
As a matter of fact, it's my open. Yeah. As a matter of fact, I'm gonna turn the mic over to Dave Forrest.
Dave and I talked a little bit earlier this afternoon and Dave was thinking whether or not he might be able to cover the September one Dave.
You gave it some thought?
He's still muted.
Echo.
I got a little seed back there guys.
Okay. Okay, Thank you. Yeah
Good.
Hmm.
Yeah. Yeah.
He said he might not count on. Yeah, I think that's what he said. Okay, I was just checking to make sure the feedback wasn't for me.
Hello.
It's not so. Okay. So we'll figure. You know maybe we'll get day for October then so so Steve, back to you.
Well, you you wanna do How to get started.
Yeah, absolute very beginning. What I do the first 2 weeks? Kind of thing.
Alright.
Okay.
Yeah, so short parallel with standard for Hmm.
Yeah, you know, they, I did the same way that 2, was that 2 or 3 months ago I did this thing absolute how to start learning to use them is what I did.
And it's just where to go. What do you want to do next? What do you do next? Why do you do this?
You know, and How does it bite you and You know, be grinning, Barrett, you know.
Sure.
I'm just outlining it right now.
It is, you think you can do that? Okay, cool. I mean that'd be great, you know and you know Yeah, the real, you know, something real simple.
And,
I'll share it for probably for the meetings over and you know. Okay.
Okay.
Yeah. Yep. That'll work. So we'll be considering that.
Yeah.
So. And you know, it's not like it's this week. It's. Not even next week it's the week after.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah. So which, yeah. So you, you got, wow, some while to work on it.
So.
And like I always like I always say you don't need anymore sometimes more than you know.
You know, 5 to 10 slides, even if you have that many, that's to keep you focused on what you're gonna tell the guys more than anything.
That is You know.
So. Yeah, what the What day of the week? I mean, is, is the meeting on September thirteenth or the sixth?
Yeah. Thirteenth
1313. On the screen, Steve.
Okay. Thank you.
Yeah. Cool.
Huh, so we're gonna say consider that.
Okay.
And if you have to, you know. We got enough time that you can either really dig into it or find out this more than you can handle between now and then.
No, it's not.
Yeah. Okay. Okay.
Oh boy.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah, we got you hooked here Steve. Okay, anything for the main, Gary?
Yes, yes, as a matter of fact. We have finally gotten more than a nipple.
We've actually got a firm bite. A set hook and we're reeling them in.
I got a hold of John from Microsoft and so we have a commitment from them to do 2 talks.
The first one, which we'll do on September the thirteenth. Will be a Windows subsystem for Linux.
Cool.
I haven't met John before. But, this came from that Red Hat meeting that was held down at the Microsoft.
What you call it, technical center technology center. Down on, Band of Enter, just off the end of it.
And so I talked to that new manager of the. A technical center down there and he put me in contact with John.
And John said he's, he's game for it. So. And I haven't got the abstract from them yet.
I'm presuming. That the title is simply Windows Subsystem for Linux. But I did tell him he could change that if he wants to do something more specific or funny.
And.
Yeah.
Hi, I'm regardless, I'm gonna leave that up there and anything else I'll put as a subtitle because Like I said before, we've got to maintain a real definition of what the hell we're talking about.
Oh yeah, yeah.
You know, cause Scott Grammar is come in with real funny titles and you talk about the blue moon or whatever.
You know, you're searching the archives, what the hell is that, you know?
Yeah. Yeah.
Whatever.
Okay.
The second talk, that John will be doing and he has offered to do it October.
Will be the window subsystem for Android.
Where's on Wizard?
How many gigabytes of memory do you have to add to your phone?
Good question.
This and for what the hell, what was that subsistence for Android, yeah.
So is that running Android under Windows?
I don't know.
Is that running on Android? Good question. 2 men to find out.
Good question. Yeah. And
Hmm.
To be honest, I had not been following that at all. So I, I really don't know Jack about WSA.
So, so yeah, let's be new to me today.
I don't know. Yeah, yeah.
I don't jack about heavy as well either. I've been using Seguin for 20 years.
Oh, do we have anything lined up for St. Louis Linux user group?
Well, you should ask! You all realize that Stan expects me to give him 5 bucks for each one of these plugs.
Yeah.
It's a great setup, man. Okay, the other the other pursuing thing that I did the other resulting for that meeting was I got better lined up with the Red Hat people since they were doing the conference there last month.
And so or I shouldn't say he's officially our due contact. But, Ted Jones was the guy.
Who? Who obviously was the one running. The St.
Louis Red Hat users group. He was, I'm seeing the meeting down there. I don't know if officially he has that title but it seemed pretty evident that he would one calling the shots.
Yeah.
So, he was talking about. Red Hat group is actually planning their own meeting. In October, maybe November.
But that was all a TBD thing and they skipped a few quarters. But anyway, I told him, hey, Ted, you can do to talk for us, maybe a couple talks for us.
So, the 2 talks that we want from them. Or that We kind of set up extraordinarily.
It's first off this whole thing with the the fact that they changed the way. Sentos was distributed.
Yeah.
Now they have Centos streaming. That's the correct term. It's great. So anyway, Picento stream is not the same as Centos.
It's like tumble reading leap. Yeah.
Yeah, well, we expect a lot of questions that Please, you, you went and saw that thing that I talked about.
And.
Yeah, yeah. IT pro segment on it was it was very good.
No.
Yeah. Did you have any trouble getting a free account at all? Okay, excellent, excellent. So I say I do believe that that what you got from IT pro He's gonna ask us way more questions about the Centos and we're gonna get out of the Red Hat folks because they're gonna want to just talk about the.
The stream stuff, I guess, I would presume. You know.
Yeah, because I'm on Rocky. Are 2 are the 2 best options for Sentos and Alma.
Is a full distro with the nonprofit behind it, etc. A name even got a set of script utilities that do it for you.
Yeah. Yeah.
Oh wow, yeah, they migrate from Centos to Alma RA bunch of other distros.
What wasn't that a great informative? It's for me session.
Wasn't that a great? Yeah, yeah, I liked it.
I wish I had time to watch more.
Unfortunately. Yeah, and unfortunately, they did. It's one of those that they did not post up on YouTube.
So. I couldn't send a direct, a direct YouTube reference to it. And, for people to look at.
So they have to. Sign in for the free account and I was talking earlier today and I'm and I told Ed Howling about it and he might try to connect to that.
Or a couple of different things. Just, just, you know, just to know about it.
So those are not.
That and the other. The other talk that They have offered is on Podman, POD, M.
A. And Podman is. If I understand correctly, it is a management system for Docker.
That supposedly is more efficient than the so they say, but basically pod man is redhead stocker.
Yeah.
Okay. The only claim to fame that I have seen as an advantage is the fact that It's all unusual and you don't need a kernel module.
Whatever.
Oh, okay. I think. Okay. The gentleman from Red Hat, well Ted.
He named one of the other Red Hat employees who would be doing the podium. Part of the talk, our talks.
But he hadn't gotten back to me on the days yet. So,
Did you, did you tell him that the, the Monday, the, excuse me, the Wednesday meetings were taken.
No, I did not. I, I told Stan earlier this afternoon, I was gonna tell him we're giving away the Wednesday meetings.
To Microsoft. But, So I haven't gotten that message to him yet, but I'm going to do it.
Okay.
And, So hopefully he'll say, oh, I guess we're gonna take the Thursday. Well, no, tell them that since Thursday is strictly Linux.
Is Linux topic would fit better on Thursday? Yes, which actually is kind of what I always wanted anyway.
Well.
Yeah.
So. I think I had. Nudged him in the direction of the Thursday meetings to be appropriate for you.
Yeah.
Have you?
But I left in the option of asking for the Wednesdays if they wanted. I'm just gonna send them a note tonight, say they're not open.
Yeah, have you talked to this guy on the phone about this or just a bit all email?
I've actually met that face to face because that was a face to face. Red Hat presentation.
Me? Oh, okay. Yeah. But, okay, since then it's been strictly this email stuff.
Since then, strictly been email.
Okay, so I'm So. My, consistent badgering of you to do an email is, worthwhile then.
Yes.
Okay. Okay. Alright.
And of course, we, you know.
Hey, nothing special about the. Okay.
And I was just just now sending a text message to. James and Sean. Pointing out that anyone who doesn't get in here for the steering committee meeting could wind up being the presenter for the lunch meeting on Thursday.
Yeah, you gotta show up to defend yourself.
Yep. Yeah, you got a shop soon so you can decline the nominee.
Hey. Yeah yeah. Oh well.
Anything, well, this possible.
Yeah, October we haven't got anything confirmed yet.
No, no, no. Well, the
Okay, I'll just I think I'll just I'll just leave the rest of this you know to be determined and as soon as soon as we get any any confirmation it'll be updated on the planning schedule.
And I'll send a note to steercom that's been updated. Okay.
Let me stop you for just a second. The. The main for October the eleventh is confirmed because that's the the other talk from Microsoft.
That's the W and data. Yeah.
Oh, are this confirmed? Oh. Duh, I put it, I put it on the planet.
You think I remember that, right?
Yeah.
Bla, yeah.
I understand, Stan. I understand.
It's the Microsoft.
Windows.
Where's that?
Boy, I'm ready to roll over on the basement floor and snore.
Well, I mean, you have to pity these poor schmucks that are forced to live in a Windows environment.
Yeah, so I mean.
You know, at least this gets them out of it and gets them some relief.
I remember when I was at Enterprise. I was installing. Oh. What was there?
What was their IDE there for a while? I can't remember the name of it.
Oh Microsoft. Usual Studio. So.
Yeah. Yeah, I installed a good friend of mine. She asked me if I could install Visual Studio on her.
Windows box at work, cause it wasn't working for her. I installed it 10 times that day and got a different result every time.
Seriously.
Okay, you wouldn't want boring software, would you? Okay.
Yes The goal of my life is boring software.
Okay.
I was putting the The main stuff in through the base. Do we have any bass stuff for October?
Okay.
You know, one possible thing that might be ready by them. Would be from day for us. I know I'm putting pressure on you Dave.
Oh.
But Dave just . The brief summary you kind of gave me what you had in mind Why don't you rattle it off here to the to the to all the guys and just let them know what you're thinking of.
He's still muted. Well.
Oh, excuse me, gentlemen.
Yes. Oh.
Yeah. I'm not hearing anything from Dave. Can you summarize, Gary?
Yeah.
Yeah. Here I've got control here. Yeah, what, what did I be thinking of?
What is doing that?
Good. Damn it.
Dave is no longer muted.
Hi.
Yeah. Oh, Thank you. Yeah, Me!
Dave's got 2 mics going.
Yeah, we need to work on it at some point.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, I'll send them on my webcam.
. That's
Yeah, you can't have 2 microphones going, that don't work.
Well I think one is his phone.
Oh, okay, that's probably, yeah, that was probably it then.
Yes, to not just mute the microphone. He has to mute the speaker on the on the, on the second unit.
Once for the phone and once or something else.
Well, he's only logged in once. Logged in twice. Oh, okay. That's where you get, that's where you get in the feedback, Dave.
Is I think maybe the speaker is hot on. On the opposite machine. Then your microphone is hot on.
One of them, Dave just dropped one of them.
Okay.
Mr. Conroy.
Hey! James.
Hello, hello.
Okay.
Okay, so we're voting on, James is going to do the, Thursday, September the 20 first, log meeting all in favor.
Sign to 5 of the usual signs. Reporting. And we like the topic. James introduction to K 3 yes.
Okay.
Yeah. Thank you. Oh, okay. Okay, as soon as I know what that's about, I'll, get the meeting ready.
Yeah.
Cool picture your ceiling.
Yeah.
Good.
Oh, oh, there you are.
Let's turn that off.
Okay. Hmm.
Yeah.
Are you?
What?
What's Dave's topic?
Well, James is collecting his thoughts. We'll get back to Dave. And, See what, see what they might be able to pick up on the, because my Well, hopefully Dave cannot talk to us.
Hey, tell me so I can type in something.
Bye.
Gary.
There's Dave.
Hold on. Hold on 1 s. I'm sorry. Say again, Sam.
What can you tell me what the title of what day one might talk about? Does I can type something?
Yes.
Can always be changed. Okay.
Yeah.
Didn't come up with an exact title. But, boy, let's see what would be a good title.
Tell me and I'll make something up as I go along. You aren't doing it.
Yeah, well, the, it was basically coming down to of Dave's noticing how the.
Online interaction of the banking website is now compartmentalizing all of the transactions so it's all being done.
Within the same application. Giving it better security. So it's kind of, I guess, what security.
Security in a banking web app. Maybe that would be the right title, Dave. Yes.
Yeah, I think that would be your okay topic. My microphone is on.
Okay.
So you think that's a good, working title?
Security and banking web apps.
Yeah, actually. I'm looking at the number of deals in the medical field. In the. For the the patient shepherd from the internet, but you got connected to the.
Hospitals is also a part right now.
Okay, that's.
They're all making you do your own login to the hospital so you get yourself. And it's not.
Available to the Internet, I think it's a good idea. Website. Not do its own. Exolution, resolution can be done.
You know, Today you can't withdraw globally.
Oh, Dave, you're really breaking up.
Yeah.
Well, I'm sorry. I don't have any audio. If I turn the audio on, I get feedback.
You are much better the last 2.
Yeah, you were you were you were much much more understandable the last 2 or 3 sentences you just said Dave say that yeah, it's a shame yet to turn your own microphone down to pick it up though.
But Anyway, turn it off again and tell us again. A little more about it.
Okay.
Okay, I'm back on. I don't know really exactly how to explain it.
If I Mercy Hospital. I am unique to Mercy and Nothing comes up on my machine that is separate from Mercy.
So basically I can do all the functions for mercy.
Yes.
If I ever walk out of it. That everything from that question is gone from my computer. So it's kind of a She.
Yeah.
And it's in the industry. Pictures of the way it looks on the screen when you're in there and it's kind of amazing to me because normally I'll open 8 or 9 I Chromebook here when I I did right now.
I probably have 8 windows open on your scroll book. But, It'll only be one window and there's more interaction than anything else.
And that's kind of new. You used, used to be able when you were on it would open up.
Trumping, another, My machine, but they won't let that happen anymore. They don't want They don't want you.
Going outside the one connection that you have. So when I'm talking to the bank, I get one connection to the bank that I'm talking to.
Dr. Jarvis, I have one connection today doctors office, but nothing gets nothing gets resolved outside of that.
I still don't understand.
But I think it sounds like
And when I, when I walked out. Everything disappears. It's kind of.
I know BJC uses something called, My Chart from Epic.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
A company and SM uses the same thing. And, you know, it's a browser.
I mean, use the browser to log in and then. You know, you do whatever. Read your results, send messages, you know, all that kind of stuff.
But you know, it's just a browser application. There's no other software floating around.
I don't I don't have a I don't have a login at Mercy.
I haven't been at Mercy. I haven't been to Mercy, I guess, in 20 years.
But,
I'm not sure I understand what they did.
Oh, If I understand what they're saying, it's that. The bank's application basically.
Stops your browser from accessing any other Web sites. While you're engaged with the bank. In other words, once you open a conversation with the bank on their browser, then you cannot be transferring information to any other.
Any other port number that's not true no That's not true.
Not true. Not. Not true.
Not with my bank. And epic doesn't seem you care, you know.
Now, Well, that's what Dave's saying is this is from Central Bank in, in Jefferson City.
I don't.
I know.
Well. Yeah.
Okay.
So yeah, this would.
I think we ought to, I think we ought to just move along.
Okay. Dave and I will discuss this more and see if. I mean, I think this isn't a for sure thing with all banks but it may be some new new process at Central Bank and maybe some others will pick up.
But, the same browser with 4 tabs open to 4 different banks.
And you're saying that. Central Bank. That's what I believe Dave is saying. I don't think that's possible.
It might be interesting to see. Yeah.
Oh, it's probably possible.
It would sure.
But I can also see where it be. Possibly a good Security. Aspect of, you know, if you're opening up the connection to your bank.
Well, you want your software to close off, or to anything else. Yeah, but what's when you open a tab that is a browser in itself.
Another tab is another instance in that browser. There's no linkage between them.
Normally. Yeah. I'm not a good enough foe. Web mechanic to know how hard it would be to.
Well. Bye. Well, you run that Apple piece of shit anyway, so what difference does it make to you, Gary?
That looks like a promo.
Okay. Hello, what's your thing? Yeah.
Well, onward, upward.
Okay. We got another. Yeah, nothing to say about an upcoming October new Linux stuff.
It's normal stuff. Stearcom is going to be on October thirtieth.
Okay. We shall be the Monday prior.
Anyway. Those are the dates for November. Old business, sis admin.
Any comments?
We've been chatting about some of this stuff.
Yeah.
One of the biggest concerns is mailman obviously going to mailman 3.
See, that was Sussi, we get, we could pull a snapshot. And if we broke it, just roll back.
There's that.
Anything else to say about that?
Go and cancel that.
I thought I did. Biggers. My fingers quit on me.
You will. Website. Nice. Yeah.
Steady as we go. Uploading presentations. Last once I had a problem, no problem since then.
What kind of problem?
That was that was the last meeting you weren't here were you? You don't remember, do you?
I had a problem where I could I couldn't download the the zoom file I had to have a lead to it And then he passed it over to Bach.
And then I was able to
Put it in place in the with the lakes and everything. Hmm. But I haven't had that was the
July problem.
Wait, didn't we haven't had any problem in August so far
So basically the same setup and the same software worked in August.
Okay.
Hell, I don't know. It's all magic. It's all magic. It works your don't, you know.
Yeah, don't flux on it.
That's right. They don't, they don't work, you broke it.
Yeah.
It sounds good at that. We know.
If there's a problem to be found, I can find it. I used to be really good at Q&A because I find all kinds of problems.
Hi.
I find all kinds of queue I wouldn't find very much eggs.
Quality assurance. No. Oh crap, who is it?
I don't know.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Meetup.com was, has really been something that Been a joy in our lives, right, Gary?
Yes.
There's, I'd noticed we kept getting messages from folks that, that are too impatient to read the instructions.
Apparently the frontmost, slug meeting page about the about page lacks that Additional little line about this says when you go to the the leading page.
You need to go to the the website and click on the link here thing. You get the information? Well, people don't read that, but even at that it wasn't on on the very first page, so they weren't reading it and they were jumping around anyway.
So I thought I'd go ahead and add that to the bottom of that page. It was very fine, very hard on meet up.
Okay, find out how to edit that damn page. No surprise. Okay, and later on we were getting posting posted photos to our meet up meetings that showed You know, psychedelic mushrooms and other illegal drugs and so forth.
So, I posted a message up to group, mailing list and Ken Johnson changed the setting so that regular visitors could no longer post photos.
Good. That's great. Just, just the editors of managers. Which is me and about 5 other people in our group.
Yeah, any other comments about meetup.com other than it sucks
Okay.
I noticed last month, I think it was either that or early this month. They did have a an online session for like an hour on a weekday.
Oh.
Where their developers were. Online. Gonna tell us tell us all the new neat features. And I did not go, I forgot what I was doing that day, but I couldn't make it.
I didn't put on the calendar. At it.
Well, I, I get the message like that every other month is, you know, all these new things that we got for you.
Well, you know, the reasons for you to upgrade to the pro model.
Bullshit
I did. Oh, I don't know how. Actually, I thought I wrote that in here, but,
Essentially.
Oh, the, the way I'd set up the meetings. All the separate meetings that they I'd originally put a meet up to such and such date.
Well, we, that was a couple of years ago. So we hit that date and then it's the meetings no longer continued.
So,
I went in and set them up so that there is an indefinite end date.
Which the consequences that you have to. Go in every month and do next month's meeting. And then you have to publicize it, the advantage, the consequential advantage to that that we run across.
Is Gary complain the past, we never knew. If people were seeing our meetings when they're updated, well.
. How to say this It now. When we published that date then everybody this all the 900 people we got, supposedly see that message now.
The announcement that we have the meeting. Whereas before Apparently they weren't. It was only the new people.
That we're seeing that the the meeting date. You know, but it's not real clear.
Nothing is on me up.com.
And I thought I had written that in and Here, but apparently I didn't.
I don't know. The next, next topic. I don't want to talk about meetup.
Dot com anymore. Next time, the next topic is other social media. Macedon or Twitter or Facebook or any of those nasty things
Do we want to talk about this stuff?
James, I think you'd be the only voice of, wisdom and experience on social media topics.
Oh, that's fun, cause I don't really have much.
Okay.
Okay. Do you have to use Slack or Teams or what in your work? I'm just curious.
On a side.
Teams and rocket chat.
Rocket chat, oh boy.
Yeah, so it's, yeah, it's one of those slack alternatives.
Okay.
But teams because it comes with office 3 65 and everyone needs that by license on that. Apparently.
For the life of me, I couldn't, I'm glad. That I don't have to work anymore that I don't want to mess with slack.
Or Teams. Or that or any of that are kind of crap because
I always found that you know if they needed to find out something like that the phone call was the only way to solve Any kind of issues should understand any damn thing.
Yeah.
Well, specifically we need a chat application where we can talk about confidential stuff inside our walled off network.
Oh, okay.
So I have that for the Wald off network and then I have Teams at another Rocket Chat instance and email or website or for internet facing stuff.
Plus, you know, face-to-face interactions.
Yeah. Yeah.
I guess. I guess I'm just too old.
Yeah.
No, I wish they would narrow it down, but especially with so many people working remote still. No, you need some kind of chat application.
But does it have to be social media?
No social media would be more public kind of crap. Okay.
I would, yeah. Yeah, this is not social media. Sure, lots of problems, but not social.
Okay.
Yeah, Yeah, social media is our interest is to advertising it to get more people to come to our meetings.
Are only interest.
Is or and Okay, our
Any comments about the announced mailing list?
It works.
Yeah, I haven't. Haven't. Heard anybody complain recently the The last complaint I had was just when we get it out.
But there's
There are some people who I think I said this before I got a couple of details. They wanted an ounce to come out.
On Saturday over the weekend because they plan their week on Sunday.
Yeah. Sorry, we, we can't.
Actually plans the week.
Yeah.
Okay. We need to say anything about hybrid meeting stuff.
Yeah. Yeah.
Anything about cameras and microphones?
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay. Change of the base in main structure. We seem to be doing a consistent job. So far, keeping those base meetings short.
Good work.
Stan, what's all that white highlighting I see
Well.
That's the, that is the spell checker. I need to turn it off.
Oh.
I mean, spell checker hasn't figured out about WW yet.
Well, I could save it as a private dictionary, you know, that would make it go away, but I'm too lazy to do that.
Yeah. See, it wants you to, auto correct it, when a wedding witchy.
Yeah.
That's the last time it was updated.
Thank, thank you Julius.
A tennis database.
Yeah, okay.
That works good.
Manning schedule reports. Planning schedule. Oh, let me turn off that spilt.
Check her.
I, I changed the,
Answer you about Steve's stagnant to to listening it as a from listening it as a base entry to a main entry because it really took the most of the meeting so Do you have Steve credit for?
Yeah, it didn't.
Yeah, cause I had had it in the wrong cat. I had it in the wrong category, okay?
Yeah, that's fine.
It was essentially, okay. And I altered the length of the phone number field in the planning database.
And to allow room for telephone extensions because it previously it wouldn't take it wouldn't allow for that.
Okay. But hardly anybody but me and Gary look at that thing anyway, so it doesn't matter that much.
I guess. Does anybody else look at the planning schedule? I mean, oh good, okay, that's nice.
I do. I want to see what you dropped in my lap.
Yeah.
Would you do such a thing, Stan?
What I do, hell yes, I mean,
Yeah.
I mean, I haven't seen any $10 bills lately at all.
Yeah.
Whatever. Hmm. And any other comments about the planning?
Schedule.
If I stands up. Only tail next to us next to a shin. Yeah.
That's an honor of my younger brother.
Oh, okay.
He, was a motorcycle guy and he had a, and I I thought I'd start grow, wanna see if I could do it longer than him.
And since he passed away, I just haven't had to.
Haven't had the ability to cut it off yet.
Also, It's real. That's a hell of a true view, my friend.
Yeah. Yeah, I just can't let it go. He was so much in the last couple of years part of my life.
I've really been, it's been empty without him. It really is emptier.
Yeah, I believe that.
I feel your pain. We've been losing friends for about 5 years.
Good friend.
Hmm.
Yeah. Hey, yeah. This route to the exit, it's no fun. Either either going through it or watching your friends and neighbors go through it.
In loved ones.
Yeah.
Anyway. Handouts. Yeah.
I cannot manufacture extra time.
Linux stickers.
James.
You buy your house yet? You travel to India? Yay!
House is purchased. India has been traveled. Sickers have not been. I'll check my mail.
Okay. Yeah.
I should still have them and then I'll I can do to remind myself so I actually do it sometime.
You still got the girlfriend?
Well, either that or she's got
He didn't hear you. Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay. Organizational papers. Gary, do you have any things that's called organizational papers?
Oh, they're completely disorganized.
Yeah.
But the box is still there, right?
Box is still there.
Hmm.
Sponsorships. Did anybody had the?
Thanks to Dave. Oh, we got it on.
Yeah. Say again.
I would say don't forget Dave, but you got him in June.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Oh, Chuckie Bell too.
Yeah.
For both case you go, no, Oh, there he is. I'm sorry.
Dave, take, take this here. Okay. Dave not here.
Okay, I missed a little orange one.
Yeah, yeah. We need help as, usual.
We talking about my analyst for you.
I. Yeah Yeah, you ever talked to Rudy? And Tyler, Talleruddy.
No, I'm not. Yeah, that would mean that.
How about Robert Levitt?
You know, I, last month he had told me that he was going to, post on discuss about the meeting coming up.
Yeah.
And he did not and I haven't. Having called on to chastise them so
Okay, you need to start picking on somebody else.
Okay.
Hmm.
Okay.
Any new business?
And then. I'm hearing crickets. Okay. Okay.
No.
That was a frog.
Ribbit! Oh Let's see.
Recurring requirements.
August. Yeah. We didn't do a real good job of promoting the Missouri Tax Holiday.
Even though Gary said it was much better this year than they had been because Gary told me, I think that Gary told me that none of the counties or none of the cities could opt out.
This year around.
Right, right. They changed the law so you couldn't opt out.
I wish I had known that ahead of time.
Why?
Oh, okay.
Oh, it's some people I would have made an effort to tell, you know. But, you know, whatever.
The, Linux or domains have been renewed. I've taken care of that.
Do we have anything special come up for September? Is recurring?
Okay.
Okay, the library room. Reserve room policy thing is not gonna be an issue this year as far as I know.
I've thought about getting ahead of the ball game for the, Ballots for next February.
I'm gonna be investigating how to do the, still in the PDF things.
A little more sophisticated for the ballots. So. That's one of my side projects. Whatever.
Anyway, I think that's This any other comments for the reoccurring events.
Hearing none.
See nothing coming up in September Yeah, good.
Okay. Did anybody anything useful?
Okay.
I took my COVID test before I came and tried to infect Lee and Sue.
Thank you.
I did set up that. What's it called? DNS level ad locker.
I could probably be a nice quick 20 min discussion. At some point.
What was that?
Hi, S. Hi, whole. That's real fun to call people a pie hole. Go shut your pie hole.
And it is an ad locker that works by. Just setting up a DMS server and checking all requests to CEO is this on a known list of ad sites.
If so, We just don't even resolve that DMS entry.
Oh!
I saw a
A, Going to the.
Hi TV. Webinars I saw one where did they set up a pie Raspberry Pi 4.
To do a tour. As the Tor server and it it was way more extensive and complicated or I should say extensive because they did go through a lot of the details and it's covered a lot of of security.
Issues that I would never have thought of. This is So. I don't know. I think we're done.
I think I think this whole section here is useless because Gary will never get with me in time enough to go through and clean it up, so.
Yeah. Definitely neglected that section for way too long.
Okay.
Oh boy.
Well said. Second motion.
All in favor.
We got
Hi. What's the Bruce Carr morning?
I
I'll read the Usually.
Oh, you want to turn the recording off?
You wanna turn the recording off or record anything any blue sky afterward discussion you don't want recorded kind of thing Yeah, yeah, not relevant.
You're wrong.
Yes.
I, I, I, the meeting.
Yeah, hold on 1 s. Let me go back. What James was saying earlier.
Your experience putting that pie up I think at 1 point he said it makes for a nice short little description where you suggesting that it might short little description.
Okay.
Thanks.
Were you suggesting that it might be something that you would be thinking of? Doing a Basic tutorial topic on.
Oh, good.
I definitely can. I think that would be, yeah, it's fun. It's a I've installed it now 2 different ways, one time up in St.
Louis on my parents network. And it didn't cost too much issues for them through just their, installer on the air metal raspberry pi.
Okay.
And this time through a Docker container on our R 5 4. That's a couple of different ways.
And what? Oh, pick a month, October, November, December.
Hey, whenever you need it.
Okay, let's look at October.
How do you feel about that? Change.
Yeah, that is plenty of time.
And be careful, you might want to check with your, social calendar manager. Yeah.
Yeah
Yeah, little double check.
Yeah.
Yeah. You can't just go running off at the, you know, meeting or something.
We have to plan out our week. Every Sunday, right?
Yeah.
You
That would be this.
No plan survives first contact.
Oh.
Yeah.
Yes, he said he said October Sam.
October? Oh.
Yeah.
Yes, October eleventh it should be looks like.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
Oh, that way I put Dave off getting some more time. We'll work on this.
Oh. Oh, 3. 1, 2, 3.
Confirm.
Hmm.
Doing what?
It's called Pi Hole.
PI, a capital HO.
Yeah. The name of the base will be shut your pie hole.
Okay.
Hmm, God bless America.
Okay.
God bless America.
And day 4, I didn't mean to. I still Thank you. How about you?
That way, I'll give Dave some extra time to. Work on a title.
Yeah.
More than just a title.
Okay, so confirmed for October eleventh base Pie hole. Right? Are there WHOL E.
Okay.
Alright. The first Yeah.
And who we during the meeting?
Okay.
Second.
My second.
Hello.
Hey, I'd like to. I'd like to set something up on the screen.
Hello.
You're trying to know the eyes have got it. Goodbye.
Okay, bye bye.
Yeah, thank you all.
I know it