Turn it on. Start the meeting. Call a meeting door, Gary, and throw the thing.
Okay, steering committee meeting is in order. We already dealt with uh Well, let's see this is Monday, March the 3rd, 2025.
And we've already held a board meeting and counted the ballots.
That might be coming up here on the agenda, so we'll get to that in a minute.
And we've already had a question from Grant as to what everybody's opinions were on the TLS work he's been doing.
On uh on various pages and everybody thought things were going well And so you're going to continue on in that direction.
And I believe the Attendees are listed correctly.
Let's see. Well, Ken is not here.
He said he will not be here.
Do we have to amend that on the list?
See the little question mark thing there that means if If I take the question mark away They attended.
Had anybody noticed that over the last three years, the way I do the damn thing?
I did. Yeah.
Well, Gary doesn't notice anything.
No, well, I didn't refresh the page. Now I'm refreshing the page. You see they still have question marks
He might show up. God's, you know. You want me to delete his name?
Oh, okay. Okay. No, no. Okay.
I showed up late. Maybe he'll show up late.
No, that's true. That's true. Okay. Okay, continuing on, secretary report.
Yeah.
Stan R is recording secretary tonight. Thank you, Stan.
You're welcome.
Treasurer's report. There's money in the bank, a balance yay and our balance this month is 24, $64.96. In February, we had Domain renewals, 2117 and buddy NS for 927.
I'm not going to change that.
No, I'll do it when you're done, Stan.
Okay. All right. Calendar report.
I… I was able to put in the December… numbers and the January numbers, but I had not been able to count the the February numbers. So they're on that the grid there. I'll add those later because i'll add those later
Okay.
As kind of a long manual process and I just didn't have enough time to finish that.
I'll do that later.
And as it mentions in the notes there. Previous times, I've been trying to go through and delete out old calendar entries, repeating things which we hope we're revived after COVID. Some of them have, some of them haven't.
Trying to catch up and clean out some of the older ones.
I kind of feel like unless something has what I'll call historical significance If there has not been a meeting of it in the last one, two, or three years, pick a number.
Yeah. Yeah, that's basically what I've been doing.
It should fall off.
Cleaning them out that way. Very slowly, yes.
Very, very slowly.
And what we've been doing is uh another calendar called hiatus.
And so basically rather than deleting things which would cease to exist.
I always make sure they they get archived over in hiatus Just so… Because some of these calendar entries have contact names and stuff like that.
People who are running these groups years ago. So it's nice to just have it around.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
You're right.
Let's see. Anything interesting in the in the headcounts of the meeting stand?
But subscriber reports, I mean.
Subscriber record. Oh, good, healthy numbers for… we're, you know, comparatively for our These are the mailing lists is what this is, not the attendance. This is the mailing list and it's you know roughly floating about the same way. Of course, the meetup thing is artificial numbers, so they just keep progress you know get
They keep going up and up and up every month and then how real they are, it's hard to say.
But those are the counts. They're pretty steady for the mailing lists.
It is interesting. Announce, it's kind of slowly been falling off this year Down to 455. It was up at 470 for a couple of years.
Relatively discuss list is once people join to discuss, they seem to be staying there.
Compared to the announced list. No.
I would kind of think that announce… is a good way to get a toe in and then you see something and You want to start talking about it, migrate over to discuss
Well, announce basically just announces you know upcoming meetings.
It used to be every Monday we'd say this is what comes up this week.
This is like, you know.
Yeah.
And now it's just if the meeting's coming up, it's the details on how to attend.
Remotely. And that, you know, that keeps it very, very low activity on that announced list.
Mm-hmm.
And… I really don't like it when Gary puts anything on the announce list because his stuff looks like crap.
Well, anyway, like in 2017, there were 582 and now it's down to 452 so It is slowly dropping down but not worth doing anything about. And 80% of those are probably passed
As in, died? Oh, that's possible.
Hard stalen.
Okay, anyway, nothing to do there, I don't think. Attendance reports.
Anything interesting there, Stan?
Um…
There are the numbers from January to February. Doesn't vary that much.
The St. Louis Linux group is a little a little stronger.
Bye.
But that's based on the presentation. That people may or may not be interested in.
Yeah.
And… The new… Linux group is for the beginners. It's pretty strong.
And the people that attend really appreciate a lot of the people who've joined in the last two or three years.
Because they provide a lot of information. And a lot of them, they also attend the Slack meeting and it Both are free formatted meetings and It's very helpful.
As far as the Slack meeting is, you know. Phil and other people know about hardware. And me, I just barely know about hardware, computer hardware.
It's really worthwhile to And it's this last meeting, new Linux meeting, one of the guys pointed out that the the Atlanta Linux Emporium, or I don't know what the E stands for exposition or… Whatever. One of the guys there has done a document called Bye By Windows 10.
And it's about 220 some pages long and it Half of it talks about converting Two.
Linux if you can't continue with Windows 11 or whatever it is.
And the other half is essentially what to do you know.
What kind of how to go about buying a good machine that'll run Microsoft.
It's a very good document. That I find very interesting. And I've already recommended to some people That I know that would get a lot out of it.
And I've already gone through it myself once and I plan to go back to and read the whole thing at least twice to Because I ran across some stuff I didn't know that… Very informative document.
Anyway.
Anything I should put there?
I mean, the slack on the new log For both.
Amazingly great groups that just for something with no no set topic, no formal presentation and that it's mostly you and phil I guess Ed really really keep those going and snake
Cool. Okay, travel on. Media reviews and comments.
Nothing really to comment on last month's steer comp, I don't think.
Slack meeting, anything to say about that, Stan?
I can't remember from one meeting to the next.
Annual meeting was its usual. 30 seconds.
The slew meeting. Some guy named Grant.
In the base presentation let's see. What was that about? Ssh keys
Yeah, I had a really long slide deck too.
Yeah, it was huge.
Like more than a kilobyte.
I liked it. I mean, I… Who's the type of good presentations that just you know okay It's just a simple concept. This is just something you need to know.
Mm-hmm.
And it was good for getting people started. Something to easily wrap your mind around. Yeah.
Yeah, good job, Grant. Thank you.
Yep.
Okay.
Sure. Well, I think the remarks are from, okay, the previews okay
Okay. I guess that's it.
I just rolled into the edge of the table. Okay.
Where'd it go?
Moving on then to… I got to put on my glasses.
System logging. Andrew Denner.
Yeah, Andrew Denner. Okay.
Any particular comments, sir?
I… As somebody who's not a fan of Systemd, I do appreciate his… willingness to willingness field questions, and I very much so appreciate when he says he doesn't know something that makes him more approachable to me. I really enjoy his presentations.
Oh.
He does put together nice ones too yeah yeah Yeah, I think that was definitely a good one. Glad we got him to do it.
Excuse me for One minute. I'll be right back.
You all just keep cutting.
All right, what's up next, Lloyd?
Yeah, the St. Louis look the managing storage using partitions, LVM, and Stratus.
By Sean. That stratus was a… a red hat.
Project that apparently is open source and open source might be worthwhile.
For adoption by other distros.
I'm back. Yeah. I'm not showing blood
I thought it was a very good review. The fact that he's done it as a class you know help because everything worked Yeah, yeah.
That's a well-timed opportunity.
Okay. Yeah, a lot of good stuff learned there.
All right. New look and he uh
I guess I should have said anything else need to be said about the But Jones?
Are we done? We're done okay New look, any comments?
May be the only one who was there.
Stan is the dictator for life. That group. And it's not elected position.
There has to be a coup or some sign of military action in order to get Stan out of there.
We've got enough of those in the world right now.
Yeah. Rade so. It… It was very, very… Well, I think It was a little bit difficult with one of the… participants.
I won't name any names but he's name He continually refers to his life with the mainframe IBM machines and Linux is not the same.
Yes, it's kind of difficult getting across… the techniques and the procedures and differences of the way he has to where he can do things.
Or you should do things. So.
Both Phil and I kind of gave up on the discussion but the other guys carried through and eventually was able to help him.
To some extent at least he said He understood some things that he would be able to do.
So that was good. But difficult.
And that was just… toward the latter half of the meeting.
Had a few new people there. Two or three, I think.
One guy that had been like I've been to a meeting last year and he came back and another person had been in the last two or three meetings and Good. It… It's a free format and it's very enjoyable. I just wish more of the people at
Attend. Our presentation meetings which would bother to show up and help participate because it's kind of fun to throw out your 10 cents worth of… advice on something.
Get corrected when you say something that's really dumb.
Mm-hmm.
Having just… been kicked out of the kitchen and dealt with some people elsewhere there's a big difference in saying you're doing something not the smartest way possible.
Versus attacking the person that's saying it.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
It was just difficult, though. It was good that…
And I'm going to try switching devices.
Pause until we hear him say i'm back
Oh, go ahead. I can hear you. I'm just going to beyond mute while I'm switching and then Sorry, go ahead.
Okay, that's good.
Okay. I've taken the opportunity to check to see if I had any incoming text message about the next subject but uh okay yeah Okay.
Next subject is… this general meeting coming up there in March.
12th. Right now, I don't have anything for the base tutorial.
I do have…
Oh, wait, wait, you're jumping ahead. Are you looking at the screen? Do you have any glasses on?
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you're right. I did jump ahead. Okay. Okay.
Okay.
Oh, the Frenchman
You usually got two pair on.
Yeah, uh-huh. Right.
And none of them do a damn bit of good.
Okay, Board of Governors meeting. We already did that. That was before you got on, Grant.
So we… I guess as you got on.
Yep.
We counted the ballots. Grant has accepted taking what we believe will be taking what we believe Sanford Baldwin's.
Resignation and he'll take over the one year remaining on Stanford's term
And Steve won reelection to his existing Cheat.
God bless it.
And just so you, Grant, just so you know the history No.
Before you go into the history. I would ask where you're saying the remaining balance.
Yeah.
Put one year in there. Just in case somebody questions later on.
Oh, yes. Excellent. Excellent.
And you were starting to say?
Uh… Yes, since this is a legal 501c corporation c6 it's a c6 And yes, we actually had two lawyers who were members of the group back how many years ago was this 20?
It's over 20, over 20. But anyway, there were two lawyers who were members of the group and basically they made sure that everything was legal, wrote up the bylaws So… That's why there is a set of bylaws somewhere but it's
Pretty easy to get things done.
Fair enough.
Okay. Next item.
Put it on the glasses again.
Oh, steer count meeting. Obviously, that's what we're doing now.
The Slack meeting coming up. There's no date conflicts or anything like that. Is there… Stan?
I don't have any conflicts.
So Slack video just come off as usual. Or as we know. Okay.
Yeah, it's the first Thursday of the month.
Schlug general meeting on Wednesday, March 12th. I do not have a base yet. I did talk to Robert Sitek.
And he was going to ask He's got a class of students.
And he and I talked about, hey, you know. If a student just wants to take 15 minutes and tell us what the most interesting command he learned That's probably interesting. So Robert was going to poll his students. I expected to hear back from him from his class today.
But I have not gotten a response yet. So that could mean that none of the students decided to volunteer.
I'm sure they wouldn't be upset if anybody has any suggestions of what we should have as a tutorial instead.
I feel like I feel like… there were a number of questions on the SSH that I did last month.
Perhaps you could bench it as like a SSH Redux, bring your questions.
Okay.
Type thing. And just, you know, if there's nothing else If anybody had any questions about it.
Because I feel like we have more interaction during the meetings
Where more people interact than on discuss.
Okay.
Or take somebody who has somebody who I'm not aware of, hasn't done it. I'm looking at your little face Stan of you walk through it and make it work.
Yeah, it's an interesting concept. I like it, yeah.
What?
Exactly.
What are you suggesting?
If there is somebody that is not using SSH keys try to use the directions I shared in the base last month to make them work.
Just as kind of like an interactive type thing if we have a hole in the schedule we need to fill.
An interactive coaching. Session.
Yeah.
Excellent. Okay. The comments there that have already been typed uh
From February the 3rd. Ken Johnson had offered wiping solid state disks And he also had offered that he could do a talk on the INXI command.
However, since since his offer back in early February.
I believe it's his mother-in-law. Anyway, it's some some family member has some medical issues.
And basically. Ken is committing his Wednesday nights to deal with with those family medical issues.
Ken's on hold for doing these these two tutorials that you thought of.
So, okay, we'll… figure on, as Grant said, we'll pursue this SSH. Cool.
Okay, the main presentation.
Eight problems solved with ChatGPT. By Scott Graneman.
Scott actually came up with this kind of about two months ago that he thought He had eight things that he had eight Ask ChatGPT to fix for them.
And so he thought this was Good presentation topic so So hopefully we'll be getting a abstract from him here in the next day or so and we'll get it out.
On the calendar and on meetup. So that will be our main topic.
On Wednesday. On Thursday.
The St. Louis Log Meeting on Thursday, March 20th. Robert Sittek.
He's going to do a talk on using D sub with Google Cloud.
And basically the sub is a way of submitting jobs.
Sitting here on your laptop and basically using d sub to send it out get it run out in the cloud.
So he'll show us all the details of that.
I presume the date works, so no change. Nothing we need to be aware of, Stan?
You're welcome to join. You would find it interesting.
Sure. Okay.
Sure. On March 31st. Any reason why that date doesn't work?
Everybody here, could you show up, Ted?
Okay, we'll leave it there.
Add that.
To steer column in the month of March.
That's the month of March. Well, it's really the steer comm which will be for the stuff coming up in April.
But steer comma is always the Monday before the Wednesday before the May.
So sometimes it ends up being the last day or two of the previous month.
Okay. Scheduling things is hard.
Yeah, really. Okay.
So in April. Presuming Slack is no problem.
The SLUG meeting, we already have the base lined up. It's bash variable difficulties by Ed Holland.
So Ed's planning on having that ready to go
I'll be working with him, but… considering that his mom is 90-some years old and in poor health right now.
He says we need to be sure that we have some kind of alternative.
Okay. Alrighty.
Available.
With, you know, with any luck, no problem.
Okay. Okay, for the main topic for the main topic Probably most of you know Brian Belgory.
You've been a member of the group for for some years Brian's always an interesting guy in the sense of he's really more of a BSD bigot. He kind of looks down his nose on Linux a little bit.
To overstate it, but he is very proud that he thinks PSD is the better option.
So for the last couple of years. He hasn't even had his Linux machine powered up. He basically lives on BSD. And unfortunately, at work, they require him to use microsoft but uh suddenly got a hankering and he's building.
A new machine, new hardware. And it's going to make it a Linux box.
And so he and I talked and I said, okay, here's a good idea.
How about, you know, the return to Linux? As a guy who who consciously decided to get off Linux work on BSD for a couple of years you're going to start using Linux again and there's going to be all these little ahas of, oh yeah that's right this is
This is how it's different from BSG. Well, this is a good thing. Oh, God, no. Why does Linux do it this way?
So Brian has promised me he'll do a presentation. Of the differences The return to Linux from a BSD user.
So… I was at a main or a?
Right now, yeah, I'm telling you about it here is the main. And so that's actually a question for me.
You all think this is more appropriate since it crosses between BSD and Linux?
Should we put it in the general meeting?
I think it's more general eunuchs
Agreed. It follows both… arenas. So that's more appropriate than a general meeting.
I was thinking more in terms of length. Oh, thanks. Yeah. You know, is that a half hour segment or hour and a half?
Oh.
It's probably… more like an hour. Okay. Well, I mean, that's That's why I was asking. Right, yeah.
I wasn't thinking the topic was off. I was just thinking about length.
Yeah, I think Linquit is amazing. Okay. I think.
Well, if not, we can show some questions out there Make it last. Yeah.
Okay.
Is that confirmed or this is something that you're you're approaching.
Considering.
It's… quasi-confirmed. He's committed to do the presentation He's aiming at April.
But of course, that's now Seven, eight weeks play.
Yeah. Yeah.
So I can't hold them to it. You know, if he says, oh, shit, they did this to me at work, I can't get this done.
So, yeah, we think We think he's got it.
We think you'll be ready.
I would probably say… that's tentative.
In case something happens with his family?
Okay.
Yeah.
Ah.
Anything else lined up for April or May?
You know, I'd love to say yes. Last month I talked to two different guys at Red Hat.
And uh basically had a shoulder shrug and i kind of thought maybe they would maybe they would I could understand the shoulder shrug from last month because okay it was coming up pretty quick. It was, you know, like only a couple of weeks before the presentation
But I was like, to both of them, it's like, well, if you come up with something for For April, let me know.
I have not heard a thing from the guys at Red Hat.
Let's move along.
I think it would be interesting to put out a questionnaire like what is the… one, two, or three things you would like to see a presentation on.
That's a good point.
And that might give us something to give us something You know, if it's the most requested thing find somebody to do a presentation on it.
And we can point him at the planning schedule because it's at the high end, it's got like 50 or 80.
Possible topics as ideas.
Okay.
So I will go back and tickle the guys at Red Hat again i also thinking of trickling the guy at Microsoft Since we haven't had a Microsoft presentation in a while.
And… I'll tickle some other people.
All right. Anything else? Through the April or May presentations. Anybody want to mention?
Hearing nothing, moving on. Old business server admin
Bach is now… 11, you might want to put that in there, Stan.
We went ahead and push that upgrade amount over a month ago.
It's some Sometimes later I will combine this these two stanzas so they make more sense.
And above it it says it's need to fix about two keep going up on bach it's now It's now running 11.
Go down one line and hit control a Go up one line. There you go.
One, two.
Never mind.
What is 11? Bullseye, that's right.
I may actually be consuming our work effort A friend of mine has a friend of mine has a WN10 that needs to be updated to Debian 11.
He also has a Debian 9 that needs to be updated.
Whoa.
Like a member take take notes, I might do my might be able to talk about our CentOS 7 today.
Alma 8.
Mm-hmm.
Anything else on the upgrade? Moving on. Website maintenance.
And, oh. Okay.
Basically, Grant said earlier Good.
Been making it so all
Different names of the domains. You're getting their ITLS.
I guess if I… it would help. I could probably help put together a base of what it took to add to those additional names to cert bot that'd be relatively quick.
That would work.
Yeah, definitely. Yeah. It's both current and it's both current Good information.
Yeah. For a lot of people, that would be a tutorial level introduction to Here's what needs to be done yeah That's good. I like that, Grant.
Is that where Grant stuck his foot out and uh get caught in the door.
Yep.
I stuck my foot out and somehow tripped myself.
Yeah.
So retroactively Then let me ask the question.
How would we title that?
Do you need to add a domain to your existing certificate?
Here's how to make Certbot do it.
That sounds reasonable.
That's TLS certificates, right?
Adding domain to cert bot TLS certificate or something like that.
Adding additional domains to Certbot TLS certificate.
Yeah, it's almost the same black magic, Lee. League is doing the wild cards.
Two, two. I lost it there to what?
To an existing cert bot certificate.
Save, Stan.
Closing quote is all that I see missing there.
Oh. Duh.
It was a nitpick.
Nothing wrong with that.
Uploading presentations.
It's a long paw stand.
I'm trying to think of the words. Is…
Has he shown anybody how to do that yet?
No, he will show us… It's sometime the end of March, I think. He said, I think when he's
Oh, gosh, you don't know how to word this.
Sean Tweehouse will teach us how to administer the new website.
Thank you.
He expects to do it sometime. I think he said the end of March when he's got vacation time.
He's been willing to do that. Express a willingness to do that.
Yeah. Before the presentation.
Or before his presentation started most recent meeting I inquired.
Let him know we were wondering what we needed to do.
That we had gotten to the point we were ready to appreciate his efforts and follow his guidance.
Right.
Anything else to say there? Oh, yeah.
That's all I, that's it. I've been up doing the uploads to the… presentation archives that does not include how it interfaces with YouTube and the new site.
Website, meetup.com maintenance. Anything to say, Gary?
Meetup sucks.
Have you been able to find anybody else to do that?
Tell us what you really think.
You know, it did. We do get used from meetup. I mean, obviously there are people who have found our meeting Because they saw us on meetup.
Some of those people come for just one meeting because they like the topic.
Some of the meeting, some of those people have come back for two or three we picked up a couple of people been here forever. I mean, Ron D.C.
British columbia i think he came to meet him So… The sad thing is, as you look at the meetup who say that they signed up.
There's always like two dozen people who signed up and I look at the list And it's usually But four women who all look gorgeous in their pictures and and you know besides eunuchs they can't show up because they might turn their camera on you find out the ballpark. Yeah.
None of these ladies ever show up at the meeting. Well, I take it back. There have been a couple of ladies who've shown but uh So, yeah.
I think you've all heard me speculate that you probably meet up itself. I shouldn't say this will get sued.
There's the possibility that beat up could be artificially placing these artificially profiles and saying that they're coming to our meeting So it's possible. It's possible. It's possible.
I'm going to assume that they're bots and that meetup the company has nothing to do with it.
It's just the… internet background radiation of social media.
It just happens, right? Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, the other thing is the thing of somebody wants a job and so they go out and say that, oh, yeah, well, I go to the sloop meetings and I go to this meeting and that meeting or you can go out and meet up and you look, you see, I signed up for it. I was at those meetings.
Of course, anybody that listens to that and gives them credit for it is is somebody you don't want to work for.
Got to remember, the people in the HR office sometimes are not the radish bulb on the ceiling. Yeah, well, they're not experts in the field There's one thing working for Edward Jones here in st louis they actually had a separate HR department
For for IT people.
Because it obviously was just so totally different from the financial type people you know it's like, okay, you need different HR people to know how to talk to these two different groups.
Anyway, traveling on. Specifically a useful comment.
The problem is when Meetup changes things And maybe it's because I just don't dig in to their organizer webpages enough to make myself aware of the changes, but little things that just always pop up like you know it It used to be if you had something in bold letters, it came out bold letters.
And all of a sudden they change something and now it just comes out with, you know.
Angle bracket the angle bracket angle bracket doesn't execute the bolding. It just prints out the So they change things occasionally.
We get burned. I'm sure everybody's in that position.
Yeah.
Bless you.
Bless you have a good night.
All right. Sorry.
Go ahead and save, Stan.
I think Stan's showing us what he thinks of meetup
Yeah.
Yes, indeed, indeed. I think social media.
I have been… in the slug discord and IRC channel on one of my workstations for more than a month.
And it is… Not even the crickets.
Show up.
Okay.
I got to admit, I have not been on any discord, not just slugs, but any discord stuff for months
Uh… I've got a… bad attitude about social media. It's like, I just don't get thrilled with it.
Maybe it's because I'm an old fart, I guess. But I'm willing to learn. I'm willing to say, okay, we need to do something if that's where people are going to find us.
Anybody got any thoughts on what we need to do to make use of this?
I'm treading water as fast as I can. I'm doing all I can possibly do.
Anything more on social media, even Discord, is more than I can handle.
Yeah.
I have a Discord sign up. I've got through Twit TV, and I also see… MintCastor.
Or not miscast. Linux mint work.
And there's a couple other things that tie into my discard.
Discord. And I'm just not interested.
Yeah.
It just, you know. The most thing I might do is look at the pretty pictures now and then. Somebody will post something that's funny. Whoop-doo.
Yeah.
I mean. It…
I personally… find discord troubling or i think i use discord wrong.
The most likely thing I'll do on discord is mute channels.
For a while, mute channels until I return. Mute server for a while, mute server until i return i've got half a dozen like that.
And very few do I actually do interact on.
But I do, I am active on IRC with some other people.
Um i've I find IRC.
But even that is threatening.
Too difficult. On an active IRC channel, I cannot keep up.
I don't bother.
Fair. The channels I'm in we have somebody post maybe a handful of things.
Once every 18 hours. So there's less than a full screen a day.
Yeah. Yeah. When we first started, we have an slug has an IRC channel when it was first set up.
Five or six of the people that were in the group started using it and started using it I couldn't even read as fast as they were typing.
So it was out of my league.
And… I, you know, I only… I could barely post more than one thing a day.
If that. If somebody asks me a question, it'll sometimes… Because I want to be thorough and tell them everything I know about the topic. It'll sometimes take me all day to to tailor a response to somebody's question. And it may go on for
15 paragraphs. It takes me forever to write.
Mm-hmm.
I can't do… I can't do brain dumps.
To the keyboard like a lot of people do. I'm too old.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't see a problem with what you're doing. The way you're doing it. You're giving very thorough answers welfed out I would rather have one of those every 72 hours versus drivel off of most social media.
Yeah.
So does that mean we've decided we're dinosaurs and we want to stay that way?
Yeah.
Okay. Seems to be
Well, I mean, if we get some members who I mean… Sean, James, Grant, you… More stuff in the social media area than I have, for sure.
And I mean, if there's If there are guys who are into it.
Can lead slug. Membership into making good use of it at home all for progress.
But…
The way I use social media is very careful curation of my feeds of my feeds And it's usually I have… a small number of people that through exposure, I think they have well thought out posts.
They don't attack people. They respond politely.
They'll answer questions or a polite redirect to somebody else better.
And it's… almost the same characteristics I like to see in communities or mailing lists.
It just happens to be on social media.
And the way I grow who I follow is people i trust people i trust will have repeat boosts or shares or something somebody else has an interesting article on And I'll go look at it and go, yeah, this is interesting. I'll look at some of their other stuff. That's interesting too
I'll follow them and see kind of probationary style.
In some ways, it's almost like I hear Stan describing new lug of You have some veterans and people coming and asking questions and establishing a rapport.
I mean, I found you all through Michael Lucas saying he was going to do a presentation.
Oh, wow. Yeah, that's right. Wow.
Okay. Okay.
Let's move on, please.
Announce mailing lists. I guess we already kind of mentioned there's kind of mentioned numbers there weren't changing very dramatically.
I remember what we said earlier. We're looking at those numbers.
Yeah.
I think we said announce was slowly decreasing and understood why so
Cameras and microphones, projectors I don't think anything's changed. We haven't Heard from Don Ellis. He hasn't found anything.
What's the interest in? Cameras, microphones, and projectors.
Oh, let's see. When we were still holding physical meetings, which goes back to pre-COVID, had a couple of microphones and a couple of microphones a couple of cameras. You also had a few projectors. We've used the projectors at the meetings
Maybe put a couple of microphones out so we could record people in the meeting.
Don Ellis had… one of my microphones, which he took because it got some kind of blew something on somebody's drink or something got spilled on it.
I thought you should build it in the marinara or dumped it in the marinara. That was it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Anyway. Since we're not doing physical meetings none of none of the microphones, cameras, no projectors have been needed.
But it was sure nice to have that hard drive that has all those recordings on it.
And…
That's true. That's another thing. I guess we don't have that title, correct? Missing hard drive somewhere.
Does he still live in the same place? Yeah. So that means that there should be there somewhere. Yeah, it's probably under something yeah
Well, the thing I worry about there, and this is a fine point on that disk drive, there was another guy who had offered to do some work When COVID hit, he never came to any of the remote meetings So he just disappeared.
Face of the earth. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, I don't.
Don didn't think he gave the guy the disk drive but Maybe. I don't know.
But yeah, it'd be nice if we found the drive. What was supposed to be on it?
Recordings of all the recordings and stuff yeah
Is there anything we've lost if that drive is AWOL or was it copies of stuff we have elsewhere?
It may be only copies of some of the meetings. I'm not sure. Stan, do you have them a feel for that?
Only copies. Nope, you know. I pass it on assuming somebody would do something with it. And then it just disappeared.
Instead, we're doing a good job he would clean up you know a lot of the edited make a good clean version that we could then put out on YouTube or something. That was before we were putting stuff out on YouTube.
We're pretty much just maintaining it ourselves maintaining an archive ourselves.
Also, a lot of the recordings were at the… Nick and Elena's and there were some really good things there that could have been cleaned up.
And… The main problem was with it just wasn't
The software just wasn't good enough. It was… proprietary stuff that proprietary stuff that
Did Stan freeze?
Stay on your mics off.
His video is not moving either.
Oh, Sam, your video isn't moving.
Your box gone into a freeze?
Did Stan freeze up?
Yeah.
We can hear Stan. He's around the corner of the office from us here but uh
And there Stan went away
Are you rejoining, Shannon?
Oh, maybe he died order. Now the real Stan has frozen up.
Anyway, Stan's box seems to be up. However, his connection to his connection to Zoom seems to have frozen up
Hmm.
Well, he'll struggle with that. You're logged off, Stan. You're not showing in the… attendee list.
You may have to reconnect.
Yeah.
Alrighty. In the meantime, Stan, while you get squared away. I'm sorry. Go ahead, Steve.
Jose, can you holler around the corner and see if Stan's still alive?
Okay.
Good.
Yeah, and I was just over there. I was standing over his shoulder and his fingers moved So we… And he was upright. He's upright. And… Yeah, and his machine's even working. I mean, he types on keys and And letters and numbers appear on the screen. Well, he lost his connection. Yeah, yeah. So it.
His laptop's working, but his Zoom connection is down.
Lee, did you break wireless again?
No, I gave him a cable.
Take the cable away. Maybe wireless will work.
There we go.
Well, I'm going to suggest we move on while Stan works on that.
Planning schedule report database. Stan's put a lot of work and effort into that planning.
Pdf and it works Very nicely. So it's a good way remembering what possibilities we have upcoming So it's a good tool, very good tool. Thank you, Stan.
Handouts i don't think we've done any new handouts in quite some time.
Organizational papers. And I have not done anything with the box of organizational papers. Have you seen it? For those of you who don't remember.
We had a… like a one of those three foot by two foot boxes that you get blue bar paper and And we just had a whole bunch of old odds and ends papers and stuff years gone by that we had
Store it over in the computer room at WashU. And so I don't know if it's Alan or who, but somebody came by my house one day and left it.
And I think so they were cleaning up. Computer room at WashU. So it's still down in my basement. No, I haven't.
Haven't unpacked it at all. Well, if you do anything else, put it up on a couple blocks so we'll So we'll keep a note.
Sponsorships. Let's see. Pretty much the same list of sponsors.
Some guy named Omnitech. It's a strange name for a guy, but he's… keeps providing us with and don't forget Steve Gomez computer services 200 bucks a year for the last two years yeah Steve Gomez uh i mean Well, he probably only makes a meeting like what every
Third month or so. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, he's still been sending in checks do a little financial support.
And Ken. Ken Johnson, he's been paying for our Zoom account.
So, no, he does the meetup. I'm sorry, a meetup account.
So thanks to everybody who Who is sponsoring?
New business. Anybody got anything new to bring up? That we haven't already talked about.
Is it worth mentioning that I believe we decided that Bach 2 is going to stick around as a test server and no longer actually be a clone in lockstep with Bach.
Mm-hmm.
Okay. Yeah. Tests or slash dev or whatever But primary function hopefully will be to come up with a way to get us on the mailman 3.
Yeah. And graduated from a guinea pig to a development.
Cool. Okay.
Good. Let's see.
Recurring requirements. Adjust my glasses.
In January, post office box should have renewed. Yep. Put in the bribes for the election results probably was done.
February, IRS Farm 990. Rashid is in the file on Bach. Okay.
And… Let's see. Stlinux.org, domain automatically renewed.
Yeah, well, we had two or three at least two of them Okay, like 20 bucks.
And tonight, even though it says February tonight we did the annual board meeting, the election.
In March, it says count the balance well we did that I guess technically yeah we announced and stuff Good election thing last month, but tonight we kind of the balance Updates to contacts on the webpage if required.
I guess, yeah, somewhere on the webpage it should say who our author or our board members are.
Probably don't want to do that until you actually have the official resignation.
That's probably a good point. Okay.
Other than that, it's staying the same, isn't it?
Let's see. Tony C.
Stan, am I correct? Tony C is… elected secretary?
Yeah. We presume the board is going to stay with that uh But we haven't talked to Tony yet to find out if he accepts this.
Yeah, the key thing, as you point out is we should point out confirmed with Stanford Baldwin that he is not active on the board and willing to drop out.
And then we'll put Grant in that slot.
Okay, so we got to ask Tony C. We got to ask Stanford.
Okay. And…
Buddy NS, Slug Account Do. It's automated and it says already says was renewed. Yep, that was last month.
Okay, things coming up aren't until May. It's Let's Encrypt. That's automated too. Good.
Have we confirmed the automation is functional? When I haven't been poking it.
I mean, it had to to
Oh, got it.
Certificate right now was renewed on February 20th.
That's probably when I was poking it.
Okay.
Hey, I can see Stan.
Yeah. Still muted, though.
Lee, I do have a question of June.
Missouri Annual Report, Carpal Legal Status. Yeah, it was due in 2024 every two years now.
So does that mean it's next due in 2026 or are we almost a year late?
Whoops, that's not ours.
Wait a minute. No, sorry. That's the new guy.
Looks like Stan might have frozen again.
Good standing so they're not Justice.
Last report was… It's still recording. Yeah.
Okay, report due 831-26. So it was renewed in 24.
Okay. Okay, we'll have to update that in the
Alrighty. And it's all we need to go through for that now.
Recognize useful efforts. Anything we haven't covered elsewhere?
Talking about useful efforts. Last month we talked about Mike Knight.
For discovery of the rogue ip address grant for sessions and sysadmin help.
Nothing we haven't covered already in the meeting. As usual, thank you all for coming to the meeting tonight and tying up loose ends.
Being available to keep everything going. Blue Sky Recording.
Let's see, I guess we traditionally say at this point we'll turn off the recorder.
Oh, I'm sorry. Before we turn off the recorder, just any just blue sky comments people want to make just wacky ideas of something that might benefit the organization like free beer Michelobes in the fridge. There we go.
Amber Bach, brother, I'm sorry. I mean, those of you who been to these things for a while. I mean, we always talk about the possibility of someday going back to a combined physical and physical Online meeting.
And Stan has said, absolutely not, because I think all of us have kind of or most of us have seen that trying to do combined online and physical.
It sounds like it should just be easy but it it's not yeah it's not.
I mean, even with the three of you in one locale
Oh, yeah, yeah. But… It is interesting. I've seen The only times I've seen it work with things like going down to the Microsoft office are going to… Oh, yeah.
But going to someplace where there's a large corporation who's willing to to have techies who make sure that the techies that it both is good for both the physical people there and the online people.
Sure. Anyway, okay. Any other blue sky ideas just for shits and grins?
Odd thoughts that people have had?
One good blue sky thing. I'll basically cover it all the time Think of who else might be good presenters who have good topics to talk about.
We'll try it. Heard them to do it.
I can say one thing that I think of at least two or three times a week.
I'm goddamn happy Grant decided to move back to St. Louis.
Yes. Yes.
Okay, Lee, what do you want help with?
I'll come up with something.
Uh-huh. I've got a W9 system that needs to be upgraded.
There we go. That didn't take long.
That sounds like a presentation waiting to happen.
Oh, no, not on these systems. It's
Alrighty. Okay, if there's no other blue sky thoughts. Book end. Book end. This has been the steering committee meeting. Today is… Monday, March the 3rd, 2025.
Steering committee meeting for schloog.org. Oh, true. The slug organization. And thank you all for coming.
We appreciate