Bye. Gary's got his crap together, so I'll let him do the bookend him.
I'm not ready. I've been…
This is Monday, March the 31st, 2025. This is the steering committee meeting for slug And let's see. So it's myself.
And Steve Stegman. Sean Grant.
Stan, I think I named everybody. And who knows who else will join us.
So with that, we start the meeting. As soon as I find the minutes or the agenda.
Stan, if you already have the agenda pulled up, go ahead and start chatting and I will
I do not yet have it pulled up. I'm busy flapping my jaws and doing what I should have been doing.
Well, I have a simple question for the powers that be.
Yes.
You are a part of peace.
For the new… Yeah, I know. For the new website and what we're doing with Git, I would like to have emails be sent somewhere when people do commits.
Hadn't seen any replies to steer comm or sysadmin about where to send those.
Any thoughts, comments, opinions?
Seem like sysadmin would be a Oster reasonable place unless editorial I would think one of those two would be the best.
These would be notes about content or about The commits, okay.
Okay.
I would guess so.
What should you commit?
Yeah. That's when somebody makes a change and commits it to the repo, pushes it to the repo.
Right, right.
When they publish it on the microfiche.
There you go.
Yeah.
One of the reasons I ask is I spent some time thinking about the pipeline.
And I think I want to see if I can use email as well as email trigger for some of that.
So I may need or want to create an additional unprivileged user on Bach or Bach 2.
Mm-hmm.
So if it's published to sysadmin. And that user's created, that user can be a subscribed receiver. And I think that would work.
Yeah, I think I follow you, Grant. I like the idea.
Okay, so make it published to sysadmin for now and we can change it later.
Did you get the slides ready, Stan?
I'm already confused.
Yeah, well, we're on that topic. I joined in for a few minutes just to see if anybody had any questions about any of the website stuff we went over.
But if not, I'll…
I just mentioned to Lee, earlier… I went and looked at the site, that slug site, and there was nothing there although And then I went to look at YouTube and the stuff we did was up on YouTube.
Is it supposed to be? Did we… change where the site H code is.
Shown the things that we committed or you committed during the presentation Did those get pushed to Bach?
Yeah.
Or did they get pushed to get pushed GitHub or wherever sites look org is coming from.
Yeah, they got pushed to Bach.
Do you have GitHub as an additional repo? Could you like could you like do a push from the same thing there.
For what? Yeah, I saw that note when I woke up the next morning and I remembered, but then I'm like, what is the purpose of this?
You're wanting me to push some commits from a meeting like three months ago And I just didn't see the purpose in it, so I didn't do it. So what is it going to solve a problem? Is that going to solve for somebody if I push
Okay.
The january stuff to uh
I think all it does is it does puts the additional data that is done last week up on site Slugorg, the test site.
I mean, it's basically it's backfilling some additional meetings that aren't on site Sleworg.
Presently. Ultimately, we're going to cut everything over And I presume it's going to be based on the repo on bach So we'll get everything. And if you say it doesn't need to be as a it was just a proof of concept.
That's cool. I just… didn't know.
Yeah. Well. Yeah, I was kind of under the impression that we're switching over to the Bach one so i didn't Push it up there.
And yeah. Yeah, I do enough.
Okay. Fair enough. That seems perfectly reasonable.
Yeah. Yeah, probably better to spend time getting the Bach one set up right than updating the other one with old Old meetings.
Okay. Would it be worthwhile to be worthwhile create like new site.slew.org.
You and as the early prototype of the pipeline we're building and it can look at that once we know everything there is good swing sight slugorg To Bach.
Yeah just uh or just do it right now i mean
Okay, fair enough.
Let me log into Netlify and make sure there's nothing I have to do there as far as that goes.
I don't know if it's like registered Somehow with Netlify. And so if it is, I'll remove it right now.
Well. The name site.slug.org is coming from our DNS.
At most, maybe they would have a spurious hosting up there, but I think we could turn that off whenever.
Oh, okay. Yeah. If you don't need me to do anything, that's easier for me. So I like that.
Because I forget how I set it up.
I think it's… Fair enough. I think it's you have a little bit of housekeeping to do at your convenience sometime in the next nine months.
Oh, okay. Yeah, no big deal.
And that's mostly so you don't have creft laying around your stuff.
Oh, yeah, because I think we, yeah, yeah. I think you're right because I'm looking on Netlify right now and I see slug.netlify.app.
And if I remember, this is ringing a bell. I could be wrong, but from what I remember, we just redirected site.slug.org.
To slug.netlify.app. And so you just remove that redirect or point it at the box stuff or whatever, and then that should be That should be it.
Yeah, that sounds right. Or sounds reasonable. I don't know if it's right or not.
Cool.
Yeah. Okay.
While we're updating that grant, should we uh Add the test in there as the initial target.
So we can put it up there and look at it before we move to production.
God damn it.
I'm weak. We can do that.
I think…
No, I'm saying would there be any benefit to them?
The benefit that I see is we make sure that the pipeline we're standing up functions. And then once we're happy that commits are being built and published.
To a site properly we make it be published to the main site type thing.
If that makes sense.
Mm-hmm.
So it sounds to me swing site.sloop.org over to a new virtual host on Bach or Bach 2 And we test the pipeline there then once we're happy the pipeline is working like it's supposed to we promote that to production.
Right.
That's the picture I kind of have drilling in my mind.
Yeah.
Hi, Trachel.
So since it was people had different ideas at various points in the email threads When somebody like six months from now or whatever.
Hopefully more like six weeks. But when somebody does a commit, you know, adds next month's meeting type thing.
Is that going to publish straight to the production site eventually or were we doing in intermediate. I know we wanted to make it, Sean wanted to not have additional steps and simple as possible. And he made comments about stan
And his wonderful VI slash Emacs skills on the current production site.
Well, if we get this pipe going the way we The way I picture it.
It might be beneficial to have that test site that way somebody else could put their eyes on it.
And make sure make sure it looks right before we push it to production.
Especially if we have two or three or more people working on it.
Okay. Let me think about the machinations for pushing to the test site and get that functional.
And then we'll figure out the um low friction method to go from that to production.
Sounds good.
Yeah, if I could just put my two cents in. I would just start with the simplest thing that could possibly work, right? Which would just be Every push goes straight to push prod, I guess we're saying.
Yeah.
And then add this extra steps after. So I would say plan on going straight to plan and And then add more complicated stuff later.
Okay. Yeah.
I think I'm kind of… Go ahead.
Okay, Stan does. Stan doesn't follow.
Gary kind of got lost in the middle of that sentence, too.
Everything here.
Well, I think Sean's point was keep it simple.
Yeah. Yeah.
Well, I mean, I understand a lot of that. It's just that There's a lot of stuff that went on during that the working session i i just I haven't retained it. I just don't know You know, I under… The overall workflow seemed, you know.
I could follow what was going on. I haven't gone back and Like I said, I went back and looked and that stuff didn't get published to site.slug.org.
I would… Did I miss something?
Welcome back to Turner Farm. Today I'm going to
Yeah, so I can help you with that, Stan. So the reason why you're not seeing anything new on site.slew.org is because that site is built every time you do a push to GitHub.
And last week or a week before, I'm not sure. Grant put a Git repo on Bach.
And so when we were working last week or whenever. We were pushing to Bach.
Okay, I kind of thought it was a different… I seem to remember that it was a different site. I just couldn't remember what it was.
Yeah, and Bach is not currently set up to build and deploy when you push automatically, right? That's what Grant is talking about building.
Yeah.
He's talking about like reinventing that wheel so that when you push that to Bach, it will automatically build and deploy. But that's something that GitHub and Netlify did And now we're no longer using them. We're going to do it ourselves on Bach to be kind of more self-sufficient, self-sustaining and all that.
Now that you say all that, I kind of remember that discussion during the working session.
I just didn't retain it. That's all.
Well, there was a lot thrown at the wall during that session.
Yeah, yeah. I…
Ditto for Gary. Everything you just went through now is dinging oh yeah oh yeah they mentioned that. Now it's making more sense. Yep. Okay.
Yeah.
So one good thing, I guess, if we do want to do a prod and non-prod style set up there's only one configuration file that we would have to tweak.
Uh because i have i think if I remember correctly I have to have the base URL in one config file called astro dot config dot mjs.
So if you look in that file, astro.config.mjs, it has the site URL as site.slug.org.
So if we want to do like a test. Dot site.slug.org and then we want to do like a real, you know, site.slew.org We'd only have to parameterize that one file to the two different URLs.
So shouldn't, so I mean, you know, that's You know, one is as close to zero as you can get without being there, right? So that's not too bad, I guess.
Yeah. Let me, I think the first or next course of action is to do is to do lay out the pipeline. I've got the Legos in my head. Let me actually clip them together on Bach or Bach.
Endpoint siteslug org. There and we can do some commits and watch the pipeline shake out and show up on site SLUGORG.
Over the coming weeks. Does that seem reasonable?
Mm-hmm.
Sounds good. Mm-hmm.
Okay.
I seem to remember that there was a a file that was built that wasn't pushed to the Git thing and and during the process of building that, it pushed the… the videos were sent up to YouTube, but that particular
Process, there was a file that didn't rebuild site.sloob.org to show that that content And there was a reason that we held up on doing that and i can't remember.
Are you thinking about the generation piece where it uses OpenAI to suggest the tweets or summaries and we pick from that.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, you fill in the thing and there was a thing that there's an area called tag that was eliminated and a couple other things that were modified and Things like that. It seemed like that Something… push the…
At the time, something pushed everything up to YouTube, but did not, we held off on There is a reason we held off on updating site.slug.
For some reason, but that file is still out there because As I recall, it seems like every time that single file is rebuilt.
You know, that usually they knew as a template. And it's overlaid or overwritten.
Right.
Yeah, that's just kind of a working area, you know, like, so basically in the generation retail, which is the one that generates the tweets and the summaries and all that There's a template file in there.
And so the template file is basically just to show you the JSON structure.
Right.
That the data needs to be in in order for that script to work. Now, what we did just kind of as a shortcut is we were just modifying the template directly with the data for that month's meeting.
Right.
And then after you modify the template, you run the script and then the AI will add further information to that template file.
And then what you do is you don't commit that template file. Instead, what you do is you copy that template file to the site.
And you actually commit the file to the site. You don't actually commit any content to the site generation repo.
Yeah, you don't want to commit any content there.
Because…
Yeah, I feel like… Once I get the pipeline in place, I'm probably going to go basically from, okay, we have a new meeting and recordings we're now ready to add like we're relatively current.
And start with. Do this to these files, do this and just step-by-step directions laid out more as documentation or procedures that could be followed in sequence.
Because I feel like you presented a lot of very good information, Sean, but I feel like some of it was pieces we need to understand what's going on and assemble it. It's not a recipe ready to be followed.
Verbatim. I would like to get to that point and I'm happy to help generate some of that documentation.
Yeah, cool. Sounds good. I think it'll be a lot of what's already in the readmes, but just kind of
Yes. Yeah, and I think it's more I'm going to take, you've got 75, 80% of it there.
I'm going to be taking that where you say do this for these things, I'll basically add go get this other thing.
And do this step there. Type thing.
Right. Yeah, there's no documentation about how to use the repos together, really. It's all like, this is how you use this repo and this is how you use this repo and there's nothing tying them together like that.
Right. You know i i could say very tongue in chic.
Cheek. I'm going to apply some shell logic mentality to glue a bunch of things together.
Right. Yep.
I was surprised at how well I did follow what we did Thursday and really but i'm just couldn't retain all of it.
You know? Yeah.
There was a lot of it.
Haven't Unfortunately, I've had personal things. It's just been really hammering me the last couple of days too.
Oh. Plus, I've been doing it for relaxation. I've been going doing stuff on the new Linux site stuff. You see me posting stuff occasionally.
I could get my mind off of The other stuff I've been doing kind of mindless generation of some pages for that stuff.
So…
Cool.
Any other thoughts, comments, questions, or concerns about the Website.
Out. My new lug.
Newlinux.org.
Once again, thank you very much for putting together well for putting the whole website together but for the presentation, Les.
Last Thursday, it was very, very informative. I agree with Stan.
My head hurts, but I learned a lot. I got to go back and listen to the uh recording and learn more.
So yeah, good. Very good. Thank you.
Yeah, no problem. I'm going to steer calm. If you guys are starting to use it and you run into any specific questions, just You know, I think steer comm is the best place to reach out and then I'll check, I'll get those and then
Maybe we can jump on a call or something and
Okay.
Okay. Was… Was there a point in time when you were not on Steercome? I seem to remember trying to CCU directly or there was a list you weren't Getting?
Okay. Okay, that must be what it is.
No, I've been on steer comm i i was on sysadmin for a while, but that was too much for me. So I had to drop off that one. But I'm on steer comm yeah
Well, that was my mistake. I thought you were on sysadmin and not steer comm.
So.
All right. Well, hey, I really appreciate it. I got to drop off now. I got to go work on my lecture for tomorrow. But I, yeah, I'll talk to y'all later and let me know if you run into any issues with the site.
Thank you. Thanks, Sean.
Thanks, Sean. Have a good one.
Thank you, Sean. Thank you, Sean.
Hey, Karen.
Okay. Wow.
What?
I pulled up the section about that worked in… in the minutes about the working session.
Is there anything I should put there? I didn't follow everything that you and Sean Grant and Lee were talking about.
Hang on, I'm reading it on my phone. You know, I checked earlier this morning to see if there was a note about a steercome meeting and there wasn't.
And then I was checking my email again about 6.50. It's like tonight, steer cod meeting.
Yep.
Hey, Grant, the slug Google Calendar, if you add that to yours, it'll show you everything.
Yeah. I think of Google about what you think of Microsoft.
Despite having worked for him.
Yeah.
Even their calendar?
Yeah.
Yeah, well.
Well, mine is only half a step higher, but the advantage is there's all kinds of sites and tools that support it easily with a couple couple of clicks.
Yeah, I had some guy on the Fediverse give me some… CronTab entries and I need to use those and send myself some reminders.
That would probably work better.
For you.
Speaking of which, is there a calendar that would well that would No, I… The CS thing about Google. Everybody talks Google, whether you like it or not.
Yeah.
Well, and I don't expect an answer to this now, but at some point I'm going to probably throw out to the group I've kind of got two questions. First off.
Preservation of preservation of preservation of preservation of our existing calendar in the sense of one of these days, Google is going to announce that they're no longer going to run calendar And it'll go out of service on June the 1st or something like that so uh
At some point we got to archive this shit somehow so That's quite fun.
Yeah.
Question two i already forgot. Is there an open source equivalent?
Is there an open source equivalent? Is that the other end? Or how to port it? I mean, other calendar I'm familiar with is Apple's calendar, which is also proprietary, but… So board of that calendar or what?
I think… I think the best It's not necessarily open source, but open standard is caldav.
Or I want to say iCal. There are a couple… standards you normally see them like when somebody emails an invite to a meeting, one of those two is very frequently used.
Okay.
And just about everything knows how to import those. And those do support multiple events.
Okay.
Can do a big calendar in them. But that is… Oh my God. That is… in some ways converting Google Calendar to something else is an even bigger project than converting the site.
Really? Wow.
Yeah, because essentially… Unless it's something that exports and imports you're going to be looking at… reentering a bunch of things.
And I know we would definitely want to do the slug sponsored things But I agree with some of the prior comments.
We don't want to lose the history of the other things we have on the calendar.
Well, you can export Google Calendar. With Dick Gilchimar with him.
Yeah. Yeah, it's the where do you go with it?
Yeah, I just ran a query And GPT came up with next cloud ByCal.
Bai, KAL, Radical. Davical, ITAR on Android.
Calendar. But it looks like next child is the only one that's actually a serve well no wait a second Bical is also a server. Nextcloud is a server.
Yeah, these are all servers.
To me, Nextcloud is… kind of a distro that is running multiple things under the hood.
I was getting 15 minutes.
We could probably identify the piece that's running under the hood and put that on our system.
But to me, that would be a project unto its own.
I mean, I agree it is a legitimate concern.
Yeah, I'd like to find somebody that's used the next cloud video conferencing.
I have an idea for you. Ask on Fettyverse, hey, is anybody using this? Looking for some firsthand experience?
I didn't even think of it. Okay.
I'll boost it and I'll… see if anybody else can respond.
To me, that is a perfect example of what social media is for.
You have a question, you have some like-minded people ask it and it percolates out.
I will do it right now. I think I forgot how to do a post.
Okay.
Okay. Well, thank you for all of that good input on the subject of calendaring.
With that. Hey, Steve.
Yes, sir.
Would you like to volunteer try and do the minutes tonight.
I guess I could. What do I do?
Well. You call up wiki.slug.org slash steercome.
Hang on. Let me go there and find it.
I edit the stuff in VI directly. What I do.
Okay, well, how do you get to the file you're editing?
Okay.
It's in Slice server slash Oh, what the hell is it?
Stan?
Well, you're going to have to get out of it to let him get into it.
I know, I know. Give me, you know, I got buttons here. You damn buttons.
Come on, chop down, Stan.
All right, Grant, dumb question. How the heck do I start a post?
Uh… Hang on. What client are you using?
Android app.
Oh.
Wait a minute, wait a minute. I see it. I guess there's a pencil here. Okay, never mind.
Okay.
Let's see. Hey, Stan.
Yeah.
Given that I want to use VI or whatever editor, how do I get to the file?
Okay, it's in…
Hallelu.
Ssh to Bach.
Yeah.
Okay, hang on.
Okay.
It's not right. Shit.
Okay. I don't have a username over there.
No. Then perhaps web interface will be better to use this evening.
Yeah.
So what was that wiki.slug.org. And slash what?
Here come? Slash.
2025-04.
Wait a minute. Take me through that hurl from the beginning again.
Wiki.slug.org. Flash.
Okay.
Steer calm.
Okay.
Flash 2025. Dash 04.
Move forward, huh?
Here's the steering committee meeting.
How do you edit this stuff?
Kind of at the end of each paragraph on the right-hand side. I'll log in first.
Oh. Go up to the top hit the login and discuss freely.
And then you'll see edit tags appear on the right hand margin.
Okay. Is that an edit symbol? Edit this page? Is that what i want i guess
You edit it by section.
So like right after it says slug steering committee 31 marched blah blah On the right-hand edge, there's an edit button.
So don't do that one, but scroll down. To where it says attendees.
And again, the right hand edge after the title attendees, it says edit.
Got it.
So go ahead and click that. And all of a sudden, all those little Yellow dots, I think, change into a different color or something so
I've got a… little frame here that looks like I can edit in there.
Yeah.
What's the time? 1920 or 1912.
Okay. Yeah, we probably started more like at seven o'clock.
Yeah, 1900, 1900.
Okay.
And Steve, if you save often, then we can refresh your browser for everybody watching.
Okay.
And follow what you're doing. And obviously the button you hit was the button for the start stir count meeting. So the only thing to change in there is the time.
So I'd say just close that say save Then you can go to attendees.
Oh, I see.
Hit save. Go to attendees all right
Oops, wrong one.
And yes, I just checked and we see you're 1900. So your edit took.
Okay. Okay, let's see. No Ken Johnson here.
Stan Riker, Grant Taylor. John?
Is Sean here? No.
Was you can leave them there.
He was. I'm going to step away for a minute. I'll be back shortly.
Okay. The only one I think that's not here is Ken Johnson.
Thank you, Grant.
Right. So, uh. Stan, do we just mark Kim with an X or do you want him removed?
Is it?
I just leave it there. What I do is I remove that Colon question mark colon.
And for anybody that is present.
Okay.
Because that graphically puts a little… emoji kind of thing on the display.
It's kind of like a little fix me button. To remind you that, you know.
Just remove those. Three characters all right i can do that.
Even found something I could do. Wow, it must be simple.
Good laugh, Gary. Your turn will come.
Oh, yes, I know. Believe me, I know. Been there, done that, Deb.
It would help if Gary had a real computer. So that peachish.
Hey, I'm still trying to figure out how to run my Univac one.
Hey, you got about six computers over there if you want one.
Crap.
Okay.
Actually have a real computer. Put your own personal flavor of Linux on it.
I've been trying to tuck him into putting Linux on that Chromebook he's got because it's already expired.
I mentioned the UNIVAC1 because today is the anniversary date.
Okay, I think I got the attendees fixed.
Pardon me one moment i need to take this phone call.
All right. I'm going to go get another soda.
I'll be right back.
For you. Oh, it doesn't hurt.
Oh shit i guess they need to do a treasury report.
Uh-oh.
I'm back. I went and got another device so i could uh load the wiki beside me.
Oh, crap, we don't have march yet.
Yes, sir.
Question for you, Lee. Did you… fund the slug api key with OpenAI yet?
Yes.
Okay.
In fact, that was your only charge for March, 20 bucks to open AI.
And…
Okay. That was going to be my next question. How much did you preload it with?
Sure.
Lee, are you changing the secretary's report?
Nope. I don't want to step on your toes. I'll put it in when we're done.
But for everybody there, the balance as of 28 february 24 64 96 take 20 bucks off that at the end of March.
Okay. Balance has of 31 February.
Well, it was 31 January.
My day was changed january to february
So I guess that means really, really, really the end of February, huh?
I'm not editing anything right now. So if you want to jump in and do something, go for it.
Oh, okay.
Oh, we're totally down there.
Hang on.
Let me know if my neighbors motor noises coming through the microphone and I'll mute.
I don't hear anything.
Nope.
Okay. He's a mechanic by trade and he's a mechanic by trade He seems to be playing with working on what have you some ATVs that don't have real good exhaust right now.
All right, Chief Treasurer, report in. Hang on. That wasn't the right starting balance.
Okay, there you go.
24, 64.
And I see OpenAI was $10. Do you want to make that 20.
Yeah, Mike.
Is this a boot anymore.
What was the opening balance?
It was 2464.
Where do we go? All right, Steve, I'm done.
All right.
God damn you.
Talking computer talk again, aren't you?
Maybe there's no edit box by the treasurer of a report.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's down a little bit. It's under the paragraph under it.
The comments are included in the report.
Oh, I see. I see. I got you.
Stuff changes every time I come into it.
Yeah, no kidding. Not in those developers.
Welcome to the world of children programmers.
Yep.
Goodness.
Are we waiting on something or are we ready to pester Gary about cleaning the calendar up?
Good. Yeah.
Okay.
What are these gigantic numbers down here in the calendar?
Yes, they are too large. I've got to, as Grant just pointed out, I still have cleaning to do so.
I have been deleting some things and I've got to do a better job of catching up on deleting them soon.
So I will be. Yeah.
Not like you haven't been busy.
It's just in his personal life interfering with what he should be doing. That's what it is.
Have you been…
Yeah, yeah. That's right.
Be honest, right?
Well, he hadn't been spending any time cleaning up his hair
Bill? So yeah, I will.
Either.
Continue to try and make better headway on the calendar.
Honestly, Gary, I think… what you're doing, you should show some people and have people help you.
Believe you should not believe you should probably to get to a good state and hand off.
You know, we're all in this together. Why should you have to muck the stable by yourself if you have some people willing to help.
Yeah, I think Tyler, excuse me, is probably willing
Post something, post wanted ad out on Discuss. Just… Well, you know, contact him if you can't put a one ad out on discuss and see if anybody else will help you. Maybe you might get two or three people to help you.
Guess what? You can do a Zoom session and show all three of them how to do it at the same time.
Yeah.
That's true. That's true.
You know, we have this stuff called technology you ought to be using.
Yep. Technology. What a concept.
Yeah, that's it.
Oh.
Alrighty. Okay. Well taken.
So do we have a number Since I guess we're technically doing April's steer calm.
The very early April, late March. We have numbers for… calendar for april 2025.
The calendar report numbers are in there. The attendance report numbers are in there.
The subscriber report numbers are in there.
I put them in.
Is it 389? I was…
Yeah, that was the numbers of entries for the month of March. Yep.
Yeah, I guess that's what it is.
Okay.
Look at that. Stands ahead of the game.
Yes, he is. Stan's always ahead of the game.
Not always. I mean…
Okay, subscriber report, anything glaringly different, Stan? They're glaringly alarming.
I'm surprised we're still here. No, there's not.
Looks like Meetup has gone up. Consistently, have we seen additional attendance?
Okay.
Those numbers are phony. I mean, Will, every month there'll be 10 to 15 to 20 sometimes every month.
And maybe three people will show out of that. Despite the fact that they'll say, I'm coming.
Yeah.
I want to attend. We'll be lucky if we get two people.
Fair enough.
Yeah. And…
Being a complete sexist here I'm always intrigued when the names on the new members are things like Rosemary.
Susie. So I occasionally actually click on those and see who they are.
And usually their interests are usually their interests tango dancing, darning, knitting.
Tea and brunch. Yeah, yeah.
Some of these entries Or definitely just not really looking for a technical group but uh
Yeah. They're looking for an MRS degree.
Either that or either that Not to be lying a company and get sued, but we wonder if maybe a certain company by the name of meetup perhaps is just generating false entries Who knows?
Nobody would ever do that.
Anyway.
Well, they always like sending me a message telling us how, oh, look at you. Your numbers have gone up.
You want to… buy the pro version of this thing for some stupid ass reason.
Well Yeah.
No, it's working as is.
Yeah.
And not only do they buy the pro version but I think Stan… And when you find out that 1,000 or 1100 is where the billing increases no
At one time, I thought that was that when you get to a thousand members or whatever subscribers and they want to charge you more money or something. I don't know.
I looked it up last year. Excuse me, I got to take this call.
Looks like maybe May last year.
I wonder what Gary said. I didn't get that.
Excuse me, I could take this phone call.
Oh, okay.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, he's got a good friend in the hospital
Rope.
Been there almost over two weeks now. 89 years old.
Wow, even older than me.
Older than me.
That's almost, yeah, Steve, you're older than dirt.
No kidding.
I used to tell my son when I was young that these three guys I sat around the camp bar with, one was named and wheel Fire.
And, and… And we had this new kid came up. His name was uh Oh, this new kid was fired. That was it.
Yeah. And real. They were the two new kids on the block.
But I was proud because I was older than dirt was.
All right.
I think it took a while for my son to get the idea of what I was telling him Of course, I started telling that when he's about six.
Can we start scooting and get to the good stuff? Yeah.
Anything interesting the attendance numbers, Stan, or can we move on?
Let's move on.
Meeting review comments. We got the board of directors meeting. I guess this is the appropriate point add this entry then i did uh call uh stanford ball one on the phone And he said, okay, Stanford, this is not a joke. I mean, you always laugh at me when I've said this before, but this is the official question.
Since you haven't shown up for a meeting for over a year You laugh when I say you were voted on to the board of directors Are you officially quitting the board of directors Yes or no? And he says, yeah, I'm not on the board. No, I am not going to be on the board of directors. Okay.
You officially are not going to be the secretary. Nope, I'm not going to be a secretary. So Stanford has officially said, no.
So with that, I have not yet, but I guess I should call Tony C and tell him He has a board of directors seat to fill.
I, so… Yeah, somebody expired.
No, that's not right.
No.
Out and I thought I was stepping in to fill Stanford's remaining year or something like that.
That's what happened, Gary.
Oh, I'm sorry. Ding. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I'm sorry, Grant. So, okay, you are stepping in.
To fill the board of directors. Would you want to please write this down so gary doesn't forget it again yes
Well, I think it was written in minutes at one point.
Well, then it should still be in here, right?
I think. It should be. It should be here. That should be… Yeah, enter it there. It may not have made it to the
Gary needs to confirm resignation or participation.
Yeah, that's what was in the minutes before. And he did that.
And…
And it's kind of my understanding that once he did that, automatically the board of the existing board at that time accepted that as uh a region to fill Grant into to backfill it into Stanford slot.
Yeah, so Steve put that on the tail end here of stircom march Why do they say March 3rd?
You want to look above it. Look above it. Board of Governors, March 3rd.
Board of Governors.
Well, this is March 31st.
Is he in the right
Minutes?
Well, these are the minutes of the minutes meetings happened last month. And so I was just No, what I'm saying is here's the line for tonight.
But the section is March 3rd.
Oh, son of a bitch.
Yeah, let's safe. Okay, I know what you were thinking, Stan.
Phone call. I'll be back.
Yeah. Yep.
Are we putting 331 in here or
My recommendation is where you have Gary needs to confirm is I would probably strike that out and put an edit below it.
No, no, no, no.
Let me finish. Put a strike out and below it say Gary has confirmed This is what we're doing and put today's date on the comment.
Now, respond as you see fit.
Or copy the line down and put it on the next section, Grant.
Okay.
Since that's the Board of Governors, March 3rd, 2025.
We're the…
Okay, where are you? I don't understand where you're looking at.
Gary Needs is the last line under last month. Copy that to the first line under this month
Board of Governors, March 3rd, 2025.
Reading review comments for top First one.
Could you share your screen and show me what you're looking at?
This is right in meeting review comments. Here's the section you put in for today.
I'm suggesting grab this line copy it paste it in down here under today, under this one and change it, Gary has confirmed.
Right.
Steve, you follow that?
I think Steve had a phone call and I need to step away for a moment myself.
Okay. All right. I will go ahead and make a change.
Yep.
And we can look
Let me put Stanford in here.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was my suggestion.
Networks.
Good. Sterk.com. And then down here we put down here
Grant accepted.
Appointment.
Boy, I really screwed that up, didn't I?
No. Just creative.
Does that work? Yeah.
I think it's too many L's. F-u-l-f-i-l-l.
Oh, wait a minute. Welcome back.
I'm back. Thank you.
My wife is not ready to be woken from her nap.
Nope. Okay.
Okay. Steve, you back yet?
No Steve yet. No Steve yet. But we'll move forward. He'll join us.
Anything on Slack here? Dan, I wasn't there. You're your only hope.
Well, I put four lines in there, a bunch of friendly guys helpful with the topics all over the map.
They discussed the Lenny Smith desktop environment start button config. One of the guys talked me through some editing on that that I'd forgotten you could do.
And there were some questions about a free BSD upgrade failure and search for calendar tasking. The guy wanted in his guy running DSD, he wants some kind of calendar.
Software. And since nobody there was familiar with a lot of the calendar programs available in BSD, we pointed him to Alternatives2.net.
And things like that. And we talked about software update managers and AI as a shopping assistant.
When the guys said he was using it to do that.
And a discussion with AR was a vehicle or vehicle history mentioned IPv6 issues.
Tools, LSOF and S-trace and That's all I remember from what happened there.
And, you know. The more experienced users show up there, the better the meetings are.
I think.
Sure.
Excellent. Anything else right here?
No, that's…
Okay, nothing to say about daylight savings time. The slug meeting on March the 12th, the base was done by Grant Taylor.
I liked it. Yeah, very good explanation friend yeah I learned stuff.
Thank you. I was standing on the shoulders of giants.
Yeah.
And luckily he didn't fall off.
Yeah.
That's where the golf shoes with the big spikes going into your shoulders worked out well for me.
Remind me to give him… neoprene soles. Okay.
Yeah.
Okay. Let's see. What was it?
Oh, yeah. Robert Sidek. Yeah, where it is?
Where was it? Probably not. Oh, here it is. It's cookie time. Here's Scott's problem solving GPT.
Okay. Robert didn't do the talk. It was Scott James who did the talk.
Right. The best summary there was the line. I don't see it.
He had the perfect line in there, Stan. Somewhere here it said they were going to do Yeah, down here.
It's right on your screen there. Advertised title was Eight Problems Solved.
With ChatGPT, Scott and Jan's did two or three, but went into great detail.
Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah.
Did you ever get your new glasses yet, Gary?
No. I still have another eye to get operated on. Are you looking yeah you're you're not even looking at the screen, I'm sharing.
Yeah, no, I'm looking through on my own okay So you can't see where I pointed you found it yeah Yeah, I had just seen that line myself one minute ago and i just scrolled up too high, it'll stay on the screen. Okay. All right. Anything for me
I think that was a good enough description. Right there. Okay.
Hey, what?
Yeah.
All right, Log, using DSU. That was fascinating.
Yeah, that's another one I got to go back and listen to the recording on because there was So much good stuff in there.
I've never played with these so And I just don't submit enough stuff to submit stuff to Google to run.
But yeah, I want to move forward.
I really liked the, I have this real world problem Typical solutions won't work.
Here's this thing we came up with or used and it worked out great.
That I think that how does it relate to me is a good thing.
The really great thing about what Robert Sittick does and also Ken Johnson, they always go into great detail with why why there was a problem.
Really?
That's really… the most important thing because the most important grabs people's attention and interest.
Okay.
All right. That's a good comment to add in there.
The thing about adding the detail nice but very interesting. You might add Both of those guys always had the concept of why we're doing this.
And you need to say Ken Johnson because he's not referenced to vote.
Oh, yes. Okay. Alrighty. Moving on. New Linux.
Any comments, Stan? I wasn't there. Yeah, a bunch of them here.
There's a bunch of them there.
Oh, you guys are going to host a picnic for us?
Picnic is an English term. Problem is… Problem in chair, not in computer.
Pebcac.
Oh, that's the American term. The English term uh his picnic, as I've been informed by Ed Holland.
This picnic.
We've spent some time in England.
How do they get picnic?
Problem in chair, not in computer.
Oh, damn. And you even said that. I didn't even pull the acronym out of that. Damn. Okay. Thank you.
Gary, are you having a picnic?
Yeah. Oh, man.
Oh, yes. Yes.
All right. Okay. Good summary then.
All right. Anything else, sir? Nope. Web training session. Transition working. Transition.
Sure. Okay.
Intense discussion with Sean Treehouse.
A number of suggested a number of suggested Courses of action.
Were discussed.
I think it was a very good working session.
Yes, it was a very good. And considering I know virtually nothing about Git, I was able to to comprehend what was going on.
Yeah, I feel like I'm going to be trolling our archives for presentations on Git.
I'm finding I use it more and more and I want to see what other people have done but I also have a coworker who's new to get and we're wanting to put some files under get control And I want to make sure he has a bit of an understanding.
Yeah.
Do we refer to one new episode? Or what?
Over the… I'd like to point out over the last four years i've done
Jessica did one degree mark. Where she was using sticky notes on the board but we didn't we didn't record that. Wow. That's a It's been a while.
I believe that's one of the recordings on that disc that uh
Oh, damn. But I don't remember recording it. We didn't use video cameras before the pandemic.
I think, what's his name was recording it at the time.
Didn't I hear when we were talking about that disc that it was copies of things and we should still have copies elsewhere?
Nope, nope, nope, nope.
Oh, okay.
Unfortunately.
Yeah.
All right. Anything else here, Gary? Nope. Pick it up.
Steve, you back yet?
Nope, no Steve. Okay. It's not. Moving on.
You want to add a comment in there about the that it was a very Very informative session that that Sean gave us.
It was very…
Well-rounded. Intense.
Wow. Thank you.
Steve, are you back yet?
All right. Okay.
Nope.
Nope. We're here tonight.
Yeah, we're here to help you. Okay.
Raise your hand if you're missing.
Yeah.
Any date changes or odd considerations for this upcoming new log meeting?
Stan, you'd be the one who'd know that.
I guess that's a no. Everything is there just like it should be. Okay.
Slide further down.
Alrighty. Slug on the ninth. Slug on the 9th. Okay, Ed Holland.
I believe is confirmed, correct, Stan? Okay.
Yep. But somebody wanted us to put it down in tentative because if something happens to his mother.
H-s-o-l. She's 89 and off and on not in good shape.
Yeah.
And he's blind. However, he told me This afternoon, he has 33 slides done.
And he knows them by heart.
He is more prepared than most of our speakers ever are.
That's true.
What, I had a slide deck that was perfect with one slide.
Okay.
Yes, I agree. I agree. That was very true.
Very true. Yep, yep.
Yeah, it's better than most. Better than some of the things I did with 50 and 100 slides.
Mm-hmm. Okay. For the main. Okay.
So I did. Exchange.
Okay. Yeah, Brian Belgar hasn't even finished.
It's still available, I take it, not confirmed, right?
Building the hardware yet so he hasn't hasn't installed Linux and doesn't have any experience to share with us. It ain't going to happen in the next week.
His mom. Had to sell her house. And so they're emptying out mom's house and getting all that ready. So it's just not going to happen.
So at least not going to happen for a month or two anyway.
So do we have a main for next month or next week?
No, no.
So, uh. Not yet. I did talk to
Greg? Yes, Craig.
Craig.
As demurred the other week, he said he wanted to go from may Instead of April. And I'm trying to get another answer out of him if he still wants to do that or if he's willing to do This week, but haven't heard back from him yet today to see if he's
He's willing to change his mind. I also talked to Jonathan Drews.
And I got a wonderful 45-minute conversation with Jonathan. About his experiences about his experiences running BSD stuff on the Macintosh And make a great presentation.
However, however. However, he has gone over to you. When did you talk to him last?
Yes.
Okay. Did he even tell you that he was running an Apple machine now?
About three hours ago.
That's what I just said. You run BSD on Apple.
Oh, okay.
Yeah. So he has all kinds of great information and great experiences But he says, no, he doesn't have time to put it into the form of a presentation. He'll just tell us about it on the phone call.
So, yes, I was tempted to just record the phone call, but never mind.
So anyway, I've got to make some more phone calls and find a new potential speaker so Unless Craig calls me back and says, sure, what the hell, I'll do it this month.
I don't expect that. So yeah, if anybody has any other ideas, I'm all ears.
But otherwise, I'll think through who else to call and make smartphone calls.
Lee, can we pull a presentation out of our collective backsides about setting up the pipeline for setting up the pipeline the website on the website Bach.
You know in seven days in six days
I did say out of our collective backsides.
Gary, you're included in that collection.
I know.
I'm willing to try it, but I'm not sure if I'm going to get distracted or not. I got a couple of problems, bigger problems I'm working on.
How's Sue doing?
Oh, she's doing great. She actually took the trash out today.
You know she she took the heavy one i took the light one.
Oh.
The only thing she hasn't done yet is get in the car.
Been going up and down the steps for last week. Mm-hmm.
It's two months to the day. You might turn the switch on. Oh, wow.
What?
Another possibility, Grant. Would you have some time to help me if I do uh How to rescue your firewall.
Probably what help do you need or want?
Remembering how to do the rules.
I'd have to look at it, but yeah.
Okay. My pencil it in as a backup.
How to redo the rules, how to rescue your firewall.
When your UPS and your generator are not happy with each other.
Yeah, that's a good subtitle.
Lee, I actually brought up the daisy chaining UPSs with somebody earlier This afternoon, he was actually with me where that situation happened that I was telling you about.
Oh, wow. Well, you did post about it and i i gave you Nice reply, I thought.
I haven't looked at things lately.
All right. Anything else for anything else Maine for… Next week.
Got one reply already from Otto Likis Use Nextcloud calendar for work.
Nice replacement for Calendly.
Have to check it out.
Okay, but right now Brent and Lee are going to Do something. Do something.
Anybody got some sock puppets? Yeah, there we go. Almost make a stage with sock puffless below the calendar camera.
Stl Linux, April 17th.
And no, I don't have anything for that yet. Like I said, Craig was going to be available, but now he wants to wait till May.
But I do have a call in to see if he wants to move it up.
Lee, how likely do you think it is we could do the firewall thing by Wednesday next week.
Because I could probably do a better job with the pipeline for the website.
By Thursday, the following week.
The firewalls actually the firewalls not that hard. I just got to
Got to figure out a way to do it on the new new one and capture the screens is my problem.
Let me ask you this. Anybody have a way to capture a VGA screen?
Okay.
With the cable.
I'm going to think of it with the cable. In other words that's pretty Oh. Yeah.
Yeah, you're talking about like a video capture device Honestly.
I see.
Put zoom on a phone, put a phone in a tripod, point it at the monitor.
Would that work?
Work.
Say again, one of us had audio issues.
He said, it would work. Trailing off to a question mark.
Fair or better or better Have Gary help you. Have Gary hold the phone pointed at the screen.
Finally, something useful I can do. My only problem is phones don't have tripod.
Tripod. Talking to them.
Our tech usb video capture device. What the heck is that?
Oh.
Can't you do simple screen recorder or something like that or OBS Studio while you're doing this?
No. How do I get the video in there?
He's got video from a physical box that is the firewall. He's got the VGA console that he's going to be working on and he's basically something over his shoulder looking at the VGA monitor he's looking at.
Well, no, I want to run that monitor through a capture device.
Yeah.
But the problem is the problem is How do I get that on a network where I can do the screen captures on my workstation.
Yeah. Hence the reason I said a phone on a tripod.
Phones don't have capacity.
Or what?
You can look for like a phone tripod mount. You're probably talking a $20 or $30 thing that just grabs your phone like a pair of tongs and you point it at
Well, for the same price, I can get the VGA capture device, if I can figure out how to get the data out of it.
I think those you plug those into a computer, run the program And it shows up on screen.
Of your capture workstation. So if you ran Zoom on the capture workstation.
And had the VGA showing up in a window
So he's not SSH into this Fox.
No.
No, there's no S, sir. But I take that back.
We're installing the OS there. And you have to do some of it at the boot level.
Does it have serial console support for install?
Okay.
This guy doesn't. Some of them do, but this guy doesn't because this one had four ports on it
Yeah.
Amy Liker. Video, light, light.
The bright thing on the ceiling that makes people wince.
Yes. Yeah, this thing has HDMI RVGA, but No cereal. Some of them have cereal, but most of them aren't anymore.
Yeah.
Unfortunately.
Anyway, keep on trucking. I'll take a look at it.
All right. So May, anything in may Steve, you ever make it back?
Let's see.
Craig. Craig. Yeah, Craig Buccic.
He actually said he's got enough material that he thinks he can do two talks in May.
We'll do the main and he'll do the lug. Oh.
Are they two different topics or a continuation of the first one?
Kind of a continuation. There'll be related topics.
So is that confirmed?
Oh. I won't say confirmed, but that's… I'll just put them in here so we know it.
Craig's stuff is going to be in May, not April. Okay. I'm sorry, I missed that.
Yeah. Yeah. May 14th and 22nd.
Yeah.
Yeah, he originally sounded like be able to April and May, but no it's
Yay, nothing on servers. Nothing on block upgrade website.
331 comments.
Go watch. The special presentation by Sean.
Right.
Oh, I have not posted the web transition workshop to the archived, should I?
For some reason, I have a feeling that I shouldn't.
No.
Is there any? Is there anything sensitive in it?
I've got to recording.
I don't know.
I mean, there's some sausage making But I don't recall anything sensitive or oops, we shouldn't have shown that key type thing.
Well, we put it up there, we could take it down.
Yeah.
I'll put it up there tonight.
Yeah, Stan, if you put it up, you know, put it up on Bach and then we can share a private link and that way we can kill it if we need to.
Yeah.
You put it up there, but do it privately. Okay. I'll send it. I'll send the links to Sure. Yeah.
Erica. Okay, so here's… Let me know when you're ready and I'll tell you what what Craig has in mind.
Go back there. Okay. Okay.
Greg's going to talk about voice. And who, Spell?
V-o-i-c-e. Okay. Okay. So he's going to cover voice to text.
He's also going to cover voice commands. And… there are two or three Apple offerings.
Oh.
There's something called TALAND, capital T-A-L-O-N. The cross platform.
Tool and there's AI usage Especially as it comes to programming.
And so his thought is the first presentation will be more of a general presentation.
Second presentation will be actually programming this crowd.
Well, I'm not interested in the Apple stuff.
They mentioned about three different things there.
Yeah. Yep.
Hold up. Oh, sorry. Talon is not an apple offering. Talon is something else.
Good.
Things correctly. Okay, there's two or three Apple offerings.
And then there's a different thing called Talon that's cross-platform. It's not Apple only. Covers a bunch.
Make that Talon a separate line.
Yeah.
Yeah, I bet.
I'm really interested in that voice texting.
Is it a dragon and does it speak naturally?
All right. Anything else here? Dope.
Right. Right.
Okay, old business, server I'm in, nothing. Happening back upgrades done.
Website.
Well, but we still need to… look at the mailing list and then look at the mailing list go from 11 to 12.
Yeah. Oh, well, I meant… the 11 upgrade is done.
Oh, 10 to 11. Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Okay, website.
Good.
Didn't we put a reference to a reference Sean's presentation from last week.
Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no.
Oh, yeah, go ahead. I'm sorry. Yes. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Don't mind me.
Anything you want to add or change?
Not that I'm aware of at the moment.
Okay. Uploading presentations.
I had asked if I should upload in the uh the web transition session, we did a special that we did And the answer is put it up there and send links to the steer comp.
To review.
Correct.
To see whether or not we've let any cats out of the bag.
Yeah. More what cats do we need to rename if we did let them out?
Yeah. Honestly, Your Honor, I didn't say that regardless of what the recording shows.
Just ask my… Yeah, just ask my lawyer.
It's an AI duplication of me.
Hello. We mean the cat on the other screen?
Yeah.
All right, Andy, I'll meet up. Thank you, Stan.
Meetup sucks. Oh, yeah.
And Gary was so busy he didn't post the… a special meeting to meet up and i caught that the day before and put it up on meetup and Also on the calendar. But I put that up in previous discussion anyway.
I just want to needle Gary about that. His personal life has been interfering with what he needs to be doing.
Mm-hmm. Well, it's kind of hard to avoid interference when you got good friends and almost relative dying.
Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm in the same boat.
I'm out of brothers. All I got left is cousins. And they're getting pretty thin.
All right. In our presence other social media. I don't know. I don't care about any.
I have been in the Slug IRC channel.
For two to three months. I have never seen anybody else join it.
You bet.
I don't like IRC because it's too fast for my brain and vision.
Not the
Nobody's using it yeah
How do you get fast if there's never any post, Stan?
Well, I mean, I didn't like it because my son used to do it when he was gaming and the screen would just go ripping by and I couldn't even read what he was saying.
Yeah, I agree.
Plus, when we first did this slug IRC, Let's see, Craig and Christine and Jeff Muse are in it like crazy. And I couldn't even follow what they were talking about. It was going so fast.
So I never went into it anymore.
Consequently, I have not been promoting it I think it's on our menu.
I don't like it because it's worse than a beer session. Everybody's talking and nobody knows what they're saying.
Not when… Nobody's in there.
Yeah. Yeah, true.
Yeah.
No, but if there were I remember looking at IRC, you got 10 people yakin at the same time and you can't even see one comment anywhere close to the comment it was commenting on.
No good treading.
Yeah. No, and I bring it up as… I kind of feel like despite running IRC servers myself.
I have not witnessed any interest in it. I'm wondering if it's time to close the book on Slug.
Irc.
That we did 10 years ago.
It's still there.
No, I'm saying I close it because i stopped there wasn't anything on earth.
To tell you the truth, I had forgotten. We still had that up.
Well, I think it's
Once you create it, it doesn't go away.
One, whoever is in the channel leaves, the channel goes away.
I don't remember if it's a name used to get to the server, I'd have to look at my client
But I think it would be very low bar to actually say, nope, we no longer do that. It's no longer supported like officially.
Maybe I should send that to send that the steercome mailing list, so people that aren't on the call can weigh in.
That'd be a good idea, yeah. Well, speaking of which, how do you kill it? Because the first person that joins it opens the channel And if the last person leaves the channel disappears but the next time somebody logs in is still there
Are we using… What host name are we using for it? Is it irc.slug?
No.
Because if it is, we can just remove that DNS record and that will no longer exist. If we're not using IRC slug and it's like.
Defnet or whoever network it is, slug channel we can't prevent that.
What we could do is remove any and old reference to it from current site and documentation.
Are we going to do that? It would…
Let me post to the mailing list and see what wider audience is.
Yeah. Wasn't it on FreeNode?
It seemed to… So basically, it's just a channel on freedom.
I think so.
And whoever opens slug gets the channel.
Yeah.
So if nobody goes there from flu. It's non-entity.
Correct.
All right. Anything else? I'm probably going to need to drop shortly.
Yeah, now it's… cameras, nothing, nothing. Attendance database, and does a good job on that.
Planning report it works great handouts don't need them Organizational papers Gary has somewhere. Saw the box just this week.
It's still there.
Sponsorships uh we've had it Who was it? 200 bucks a year Oh.
I'll look it up. Anyway, we've had some good contributions cash wise a couple of those a year we can cover our operating budget Any new business?
Does the IRC comment count as new business?
I guess that would. Yeah, probably.
The recurring requirements, everything's automated. Counted the ballots.
Stan will need to update the contacts on the webpage showing that Grant is on the board.
We also need to update the email alias so that email the board, gets copied to Grant.
Okay.
That should probably go to my slug address. Mostly because forwards they're from forwards to my server get cranky with certain things.
Okay. That means your server isn't old enough.
Nah, it's too picky. At times.
Leo already put in that the Buddy NS account automatically renewed.
Next thing coming up is Let's Encrypt renewal every 60 days. That doesn't happen until May.
We're in good shape.
We probably want to monitor that and make sure it is renewing correctly after the work this.
Earlier this year. And the new and the new Yeah.
You're welcome. Yeah. Excellent. Excellent point. Yeah.
I have every reason to believe it's going to, but if we don't monitor it, that's when it's going to fail.
And that's in conjunction with the way Let's Encrypt is changing their end dates kind of thing.
Maybe.
We are not subject to that. What I was referring to is the key rotation we had And adding the additional domain names for the certificates.
Oh, yes, I remember now. Thank you.
Right.
Right. And the other factor is Let's Encrypt is no longer sending emails that your search is expiring.
Right.
Although at some point There was mention of an acme client that would But I haven't looked into it.
Okay.
Recognize useful efforts. Anybody?
Oh, the…
Sean's did a wonderful job. Outstanding.
Yeah.
Singly outstanding.
I would think it's also worth calling out Lee and his effort to make sure Box State Online as long as possible despite Mother Nature trying to make otherwise.
Yeah. And a quirky generator.
Or gas speed, whatever. Was it a gas feed on the generator that was a problem
No, damn thing kept shutting down. With low speed fault.
Yeah.
And I finally found a service guy I trust is supposed to be here tomorrow.
Hope I can figure it out.
Okay.
And Lee was going to use that loose electrical wire to try and restart my heart because everything went black just at the point where I tried to click on the button to make Stan the co-host of the meeting.
That was a different problem. That was a UPS problem. Okay, yeah. That wasn't a generator. I know.
I didn't want to go through the involvement of twisting the jokes. Did I tell you what that ended up being, Grant?
No.
I had to put a 20 amp plug on the on the the 3k ups i i threw in the closet to replace the bad one And it's… Stop conducting power.
Yeah.
So you had a conductor turn into an insulator.
Well, it was, you know, a screw terminal. You stick the wire in and tighten it down. It stopped conducting power.
I don't know what happened. I threw it out and I haven't looked at i took the cable apart and now i have to I got another UPS in there.
Okay.
I actually got four UPSs in there now. Two of them in series on each side of the ATS.
Transfer switch.
Okay. All right.
Great. All right. Anything else here? Okay.
I guess we can turn let's see. Recording off?
Yeah.
What do you call a powerboat that can turn into a submarine and also act as a stealth gunship?
But yeah, I have a…
This is all of those things.
Oh, I'm sorry. The first, it's blue sky stuff that would be on the recording Anybody got any blue sky stuff they need to talk about while we're recording?
I do not.
Shane. Okay.
I do. A question, Gary. Does your email on Schlug, is it redirected to Tripp's email on Gmail?
No.
That must be one huge mess out there that you never even look at anymore, right?
Right. You're absolutely right.
Might behoove you to either redirect that stuff to trip or just I don't know.
Yeah, you're absolutely right. Get off my butt and Start reading old email. Yep. You sound like the guy I was looking at this morning. He had 14,000 emails in his inbox.
I bet Gary's got more.
I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't either.
All right, gentlemen, I need to bow out unless there's anything PDQ.
Nope. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. All right. See y'all.
All right. Have good evening, gentlemen. Bye.
Ended recording. Bye.
Thank you. Sorry I got called out like that.
How do I stop this?
You can take over.
Stop the recording.
All right, ready to stop the recording? All right. This had been the… steering committee meeting for slug Today's date is Monday, 31st of march 2025. We're talking about planning stuff for April and beyond.
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