Record not to the computer, but to the cloud.
This meeting is being recorded.
Okay.
Call a meeting the order? It's in order.
Disorder, maybe.
Do we have a fearless leader?
Yeah, Gary's here. He's here. Just physical.
I haven't heard them.
I hear from over Stan's microphone right now.
They're making no claims.
Alright, eh.
Did Steve say he was not coming back? Is that it?
Yeah, he quit. He's gonna try to download the Zoom app again, but on his, uh….
Okay.
8-meg wire, uh…. You know, internet connection, it takes half an hour.
Oh, God. He doesn't need that.
He can't get the browser to work.
Well, let's… you know.
I'll be recording Active Secretary.
Lee, did you do the…. Tuition report, or are you going to do that later?
I'll do that later.
Okay. Uh, I didn't have time to do the calendar report today, it's no big deal.
But got everything else. Got the, uh…. Subscriber report.
Pretty much, uh, about…. About the same.
Uh, you know, just a couple numbers here, and…. Their, uh, the meetup, of course, is continually growing.
I'll probably take some time out and knock out a…. Reduce it down about.
100 people or so, you know, because it…. They're all phantom address, practically addresses at all, mostly anyway.
Announce, drop down to…. Discussed, picked up one.
I think Ed Wehner…. Email dropped off a sysadmin and a steercom list.
Oh, no. Well, have you talked to Edwina in the last 3 years?
I don't even remember.
Yeah. It, uh…. Anyway….
Uh… that's…. And the attendance report.
Okay, that….
Kind of the numbers you'd expect for the…. Spring, whatever.
Not, you know…. Could be worse.
Yeah. We had 4 people.
Steercomm last month. The first part of the month, uh, then we had 13 at Slack.
Not as many as I would hope for. Uh, but it was a real good meeting. I'll talk about it later.
The SLUB meeting was 17. Should have been a lot more. And the lug….
Cameless Luna Cuties Group was…. 17 was up a little bit.
New Linux was just 8. And I don't think we had any… any new people to speak of.
Or the, uh…. Whatever.
I don't have any real comments about…. To numbers.
I'll send you soup.
No significant changes. Meeting review for the, uh…. The, uh… hmm….
Yeah, what is it? That was the June Slack meeting.
Small attendance.
With two relatively new people.
That's the one where the guy from Red Hat joined us, right?
That's the one we're…. Yep, mhm.
I hear Gary directly.
Kansas City?
I was a Kansas City redhead office, I think. Okay. Uh….
Yeah, mhm.
Steer car meeting, yeah…. Nothing.
Nothing.
Yeah, they… last month, or the first part of the month, was delayed a week.
Yeah, they… last month, or the first part of the month was delayed a week.
Because of…. Lots of things.
Kind of… mock the thing. Nothing significant for this month, other than….
Nothing significant this month, other than…. Started late.
Sorry, delayed.
Steve Stegman.
Issues with Zoom. I think everybody has issues with Zoom.
Everybody has issues with Zoom.
Knock on wood, I don't.
We, you know, at the slug, uh…. 11 June meeting, we skipped the….
It's a smooth, uh…. We'll have a June meeting, we spent….
The base…. Because, uh….
The beige. Any comments about that?
Any comments about that? Seemed like a good idea.
Seemed like a good idea. I… I still think it was a good idea. I think we had….
Um, that was….
More than enough material to…. All the time.
Although I like the idea of the Oreo cookie meeting, and….
That was Scott Grant.
Having a tutorial on the front, I mean, if…. And you got enough content, it just goes too long.
Anyway… Oh, comments about his history…. Uh, from 2000 to 2009.
Anyway, one of the things about this history…. From 2000 to 2009.
I think it was, to me. One of the most.
Engaging history presentations he has done. All these things have been good.
I… I still haven't gone back and looked at the video of that, and that was….
That was, uh…. A week when things weren't working well for me. Uh, a lot of hospital stuff there.
So… how…. What… what do people think? Did he stay….
Interesting? Did he get off into too many?
I think, if anything. He underrepresented.
Too many wacko…. Things on the side, or…?
But he had to be…. No, uh….
He had a lot of very good things that seemed to be very good details, or….
Proper amount of details for them. There was just so much….
To go into, he had to…. Cherry pick. And I think he did a good job of it.
Excellent.
I don't… I've learned….
I… I would have liked…. I would have liked to….
Better coverage of the scope dispute.
Other than that, great. As always.
As always, he delivers….
150%. In my opinion.
Good. It was good, really good.
I do appreciate his roundtable at the end. Asking what people thought.
You know, either most interesting to them, or. What have you. I think that's a good audience engagement.
Method?
Technically. Anything else?
Sure.
Next. It went long.
He went an hour long. It went long.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Okay.
It was good. You know, I guess….
I even stayed awake. But as soon as it was over, I shut down.
Wow.
Hey, there's a Steve back.
Yeah. Ooh, boy.
Anyhow, uh, June 19th, the St. Louis Linux Users Group. Uh… from SSL to modern TSL.
Title is too long. So I've chopped it down to that.
Um, the duet. Tag teams, Lee, Lambert, and Grant Taylor.
What'd you think of that, Gary?
You're on mute.
Were you there? I don't remember.
Yeah, you asked a lot of questions, so…. You did… they clarified some questions you had.
Hey, Lee, can you hear me at all? Okay.
Yeah, we… we hear you. Steve, we can hear you.
Yes, we can.
All right, I am now using Firefox. And everything seems to work like it used to work.
Seriously.
Hmm. Zoom sucks. Okay. New and improved Zoom sucks.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
Funny thing is, it really shouldn't pay any attention to the operating system, because you're running a browser, but….
Wow. Hey, you know, it is just, what, the summer code, as they call it, and they've got all those….
Teenagers in there. But not yet quite into college, and coding and all that stuff, and….
What do they… what do I call them? Snot nose developers?
Yeah.
Steve?
I gotta get all your intent.
Getting back to… to the talk, I doubt…. I gotta admit, you guys pulled it off amazingly. I mean, how….
With two of you working on it like that, and didn't have that much advance notice into what you put that together in two weeks.
And that… that… I mean, it didn't look like it was something that was shown together. It seemed like it was something that was well thought out.
Really came together well, so you guys did a great job.
80% of it was Lee. Right.
No, I gotta… I gotta give credit to ChatGPT. That was a presentation.
But I feel like the audience engagement. Um, Gary, you and Stan, the questions you had.
I think contributed to the presentation.
Uh, something I learned in the military as a Master Sergeant.
Yeah, ask one question. Nobody.
You ask dumb questions when nobody else will ask questions, and then….
Gets the points across.
Gifts and points. Mm-hmm.
I've been known to ask questions that I know the answer to, but I think somebody else in the room needs to hear the answer, too.
That's… that's right. I took… I call them dumb questions, but they're not really dumb, but they're the questions.
I hope.
Everybody's too shy to ask.
Mm-hmm.
So, Grant, you or Lee owe Stan $5 for each question that, uh, just a little subtle things.
No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no.
Uh, let me, uh, talk to the…. Group, uh, treasurer.
There we go.
Yeah. Is that a viable business expense?
No.
But anyway, yeah, really, really nice job, guys. I mean, that….
It was a really good talk.
Yeah, um…. I kind of felt going into it that it was just too complex of a….
Of a topic, but breaking it down with the hysterical break, you know, progression.
And what led to this, what led to that, and uh….
Almost to the point, I think, Congress critters could understand it, or a 4-year-old. You know, talk to me like a 4-year-old, or I run for Congress, you know?
Hmm. I don't know.
Anything else about that?
It was standard. It went to the 3 hours. And uh….
I mean, I could look it up, you want to know exactly our in minutes, you know.
I got it over here. To see if my head, it seemed like it fit well in the time slot.
Yeah.
Let's get the time slot well.
Okay. The new Linux group, uh…. Oh….
Disappointingly small.
Mall attendance.
Regular. Mostly regular….
Oh.
Regular suspects.
Of course, we all enjoyed that. No, just a bullshit session.
You know, I… I think sometimes some of the guys just show up to just….
Get away from the rest of life. You know? And a topic that they can be interested in.
Stircom meeting tonight.
Murphy Fun.
Yeah, Murphy. That's a good way to….
New and improved. Zoom isn't….
Improved.
Put double quotes in front of improved.
Okay. Shawaii! July.
We got a Slack meeting come up. And Thursday.
The third…. Already… mmm….
The…. The guy from Red Hat said he would show up there.
Maybe we'll, maybe he won't.
Well, we told him about Thursday night, and he said he was interested.
The way I took it. You know, if you'd listen to these things, you would know.
You know, I have the advantage of going back a second time to take the….
Figure out the attendance, so I hear the whole meeting over again.
And then I promptly forget. And… and misremember what happened.
You know, just because I hear it a second time doesn't mean I know what the hell's going on.
July 4th is a holiday, Independence Day. The day after the Slack meeting?
July 9th is the SLUG meeting confirmed to be Ansible 101.
A base session by Sean? And… I was telling, uh….
Grant, before we started the meeting, we talked about… I had just done….
A little video training session from ITProTV. Something like 14 videos, something like 6 hours.
Video. As an introduction. So….
I wonder just how much he's gonna crab into, you know.
30, 45 minutes. I don't know.
Question. Can he do it?
Uh, if he talks as fast as the Micro Machine Man.
Okay. And then he, uh, as the main, Sean is gonna go into that Ansible.
And, uh…. I don't know.
Any comments about that?
I think it'll be interesting to see.
Kind of a….
Utility information to me.
Yeah, well, we… we want to do new and improved, or….
The things on the horizon, the blinking lights. The shiny thing coming down the road.
Yep.
We hope. I don't know.
July, St. Louis Linux Users Group. Do we have anything, uh….
Lined up, Gary? Moving right along….
That guy from Red Hat, I was figuring maybe I…. See if Red Hat might have talked, too.
Can't hear you, Gary.
Are you muted over there, Gary? Nobody can hear you.
Yeah, he's muted.
Yeah, I was thinking of a college guy that came from Red Hat.
To kind of try and rouse somebody to Red Hat, because….
Okay, unmute it. Uh…. Yeah, I was thinking of calling that guy that came from Red Hat, because I'd really been intending to kind of try and rouse somebody from Red Hat, because A, we haven't had a talk from them in….
Hey, we haven't had a dog from this. B.
As he pointed out, he didn't…. Red Hat, we're just kind of gone silent.
Couple years, and B. As he pointed out in the meeting, the Red Hat group has just kind of gone silent. I mean, they….
They don't even hold their own meetings anymore, so, uh….
They don't hold their own pages. I mean, he had mentioned something about he could probably get, uh….
Fundament.
Marketing to fund a face-to-face pizza thingy.
Which is another point I'm gonna mention when we get to the next topic.
Right. Which I won't go to anymore. Period. Sorry.
Right. Which, I won't look at. Period. Sorry. Okay.
I got sick once, so I'm not doing it again. Getting too old with this shit.
It's been too long.
Uh….
I'm looking forward. In the end, it applies me.
I'm looking forward. To the end of July's new meeting.
Noon when it's meeting.
As always. And those are the dates for August in there. I didn't bother filling anything out.
I didn't bother filling anything up.
Detail-wise, because…. We didn't have anything lined up.
That I've been talking to you as often… to Gary as often as possible.
Those are just the dates there. Oh, notice right there in the August 15th.
The pawpaws. Missouri pawpaws should be ripe on the 15th.
Is Lee talking to us? Leaf muted.
Yeah…. See Sue in there?
Oh, he's talking to somebody.
Okay.
Alright. Whole business.
Server admin.
Um… it's proper.
We need to start…. Do we need to start worrying about the next upgrade to Debian?
Well, we have to worry about the mailman.
I phrased that wrong. Have we gotten far enough along that we could start worrying about it?
Not that I am aware of. We still have mailman upgrade.
Okay.
It's probably worth mentioning…. The, uh, spam event?
I can't remember the structure. Agenda, whether that's appropriate here or not. I guess it is.
More of the temporary blacklisting.
Mike…. Like, entries and sysadmin.
And….
Because, uh…. Spammer.
Using us. Right? Does that cover it?
Yeah, put in parentheses behind it, credential stuffing.
Credential stuffing.
Yep.
Make sure Lee, do you have any objection to that?
I think Lee's still muted.
Yeah, he is. His video's off, too.
Uh….
Yeah.
Comment for the block upgrade. I'll just repeat that, we still have to finish upgrading mail… email, right?
Uh, yeah, it's mailman. The mailing list.
The mailing list software, right? Okay.
Yes.
Otherwise, it's…. Otherwise, it seems to be….
Everything's functioning, as near as I can tell.
Agreed.
I… I did want to ask, Lee, if the…. How the backups were being handled if they'd still….
Same way. And if they've been tested recently.
But…. Good question, whatever.
The website, uh, SLUBOR Maintenance, uh….
Yeah.
I think there's been any change.
I still haven't gotten into working with that new website structure.
Damn.
I haven't touched it in a while.
Okay, I… uh…. The last 3 weeks from, you know, not 3 weeks, actually the last….
Well. I unexpectedly went to….
Las Vegas in December to take care of my friend who was sick.
She had hurt herself. And, uh….
An injury, she was in a wheelchair, and she's since moved back to….
Here to St. Louisian. Blah-da-da-da-da, he just….
I'm 3 months behind. At least.
Yeah. And, uh…. Of course, Gary's been the same way.
Right? Hopefully, we can get back into being productive.
You know, it just…. Uploading presentations, I've been….
Just keeping, uh….
I've just been keeping up with the usual archive pages. Anything to say about meetup.com maintenance?
Gary? Oh.
Yeah, the, the, the….
Did he actually say that, or are you just typing it for him?
There are things that…. Just inconsistent, and probably it's because I should be.
Going in and reading their…. A URL or a site administrators, and I guess I really don't pull in.
Read the updates, but there's things that just change from month to month.
Like this last month, I put in the, uh. I put in all of our new information. You're muted.
Gary, you're muted if you're talking.
Wednesday, uh….
I put in that information for the Wednesday talk, and it never offered.
There we go. I put in that information for the Wednesday talk, and it never offered.
To announce it to the group, uh…. Or publicize it, you know?
To announce it to the group.
Change terminology, or use both. So, you know….
So…. Why I never got a request, or never got a request to….
Why I never got a request, or never got requested to….
Actually, it's published. I don't know.
No, they've been…. Okay.
Okay. If they provide documentation.
Well, if they provide documentation and we don't read it, that's kind of our fault, right?
I know. Yeah, yeah.
Do they actually provide anything?
Yeah. Well, he says they do, but he hasn't read it, so he doesn't know if it's any good or not.
Well, he said to do it, but…. Well, yeah, I….
I've just stumbled on an occasional comment that says, you know, that there's….
A thread somewhere that they talk about how to be an administrator.
I never… I never bothered to try and find it, but like I say, it's… it's not well publicized, so you really have to kind of look for it.
Well publicized, so you can get a copy. I have never looked for it.
I've never…. I think we added.
I figured it was just as bad as everything else. I mean….
I mean…. They've got so many features.
They've got so many features that…. We don't really need.
We don't really need…. Uh-huh.
You know, and which, honestly, I don't think anybody else uses either.
But I don't do this either. There's all these people say that they're gonna….
Because they have a feature in there that all these people say that they're going to attend meetings.
You can actually go in there and say whether or not they attended.
And nobody does that. It's just too damn much work. Oh, well, I, you know….
And nobody does that. You can't much work. Is that a lot?
Whatever. And, you know, for different groups, you know, if you're the, uh.
Whatever.
Uh… uh…. Dog kennel club of Hazelwood, or whatever, you know, maybe they….
Dog can….
Maybe they do have interest in tracking who their membership is and who comes to the meeting, or, you know, so maybe other groups use it differently.
Maybe they do have interest in tracking.
So….
Well, there may be other groups that actually use it. Kind of like Stan records who attends.
Here, maybe other people are utilizing Meetup for some of that function.
Yeah.
I could see some tiny…. City Hall kind of thing, just using it to just record all our meetings there.
And record whether, uh, Alderman so-and-so showed up. You know, what the hell?
Yeah.
Well, I, you know, I could do the same kind of thing, you know, I've often considered.
Uh, posting. How many meetings everybody attended during the year.
And, uh…. You know, that's kind of thing. You know, we….
Used to have, uh…. You know, Gary McKee used to attend every, absolutely every meeting.
Having face-to-face… and he lived in… where? Benton?
Somewhere south. And he doesn't attend them anymore.
Well, we don't have them anymore, right? And I was surprised he… did he shoot… I don't think he showed up at the pizza place meeting, did he?
I don't think he did. Or did he?
Did we have a meeting at the pizza place? Huh.
Yeah. On the 15th of June.
Or no, yeah, May. 15th of May.
They had a get-together, but I did not…. I thought that was a non-meeting.
Well, it was a non-meeting meeting, but, you know, it…. You know, normally he would have been there.
Thing.
Yeah. Matter of fact, he… who was just sitting next to me?
Ooh.
Oh, Don Ellis sat next to me, that's right. And Don Ellis, and….
Robert Levitt, and across from me was Scott Graniman, and.
Joe B sat next to me for a while. I think.
Not today. Uh….
Anything to say about our internet presence on other social media?
No change? I haven't liked it at all, so….
No change.
Grant, you got any feedback about…. Our existence in the world of social media?
I think you're muted, Gary. To the point where….
Grant can't hear you. Hearing any feedback? Anybody?
Hey. Grant, you hearing any feedback from anybody about.
Slug on social media.
No, I'm not.
They say I usually just kind of prod James and, uh….
And Sean, to post something out there, but uh…. Last I checked with them, they didn't seem to be getting a whole lot of response back.
Yeah, I think the most likely social media place that anything.
Comes out of is…. I think we've seen a few new people come in.
Via Meetup.
Well, we'll get two, maybe three a month. Out of what should be….
15, 20, or more. But those seem to be just ghost names.
Did some, uh… is everybody slacking, or whatever? We've got some meetup, put many ghosts.
Yeah.
Announce mailing list….
A mouse mailing list, we were…. Briefly.
Blacklisted.
Because….
Credential.
Anything? Read all the details on that yet, so I don't….
Really understands what? He can't hear you. I can hear you, he can't hear you.
Can't hear you, Gary.
Okay, I didn't…. I read some of what….
I didn't… I read some of what…. What I can put out there.
What Mike had put out there. But not enough that I really understand.
But not enough, I really understand. What happened?
What happened?
Um, my understanding…. Was that one of our members.
Their account was used to send a bunch of email. Through our server.
Like, 20,000.
Um. Yeah. In natural due course, various.
Receiving email operators objected. And Bach was temporarily.
Blacklisted. Um, Mike and Lee due diligence, got stuff cleaned up.
And, summarily, the blacklistings. Subsided, and emails started flowing normally.
Is my understanding.
2016, we have lived aboard a fail boat.
So, I presume this user was…. Not really somebody we knew, but just somebody who signed up and got an account.
Oh, he hacked Mike Chris's password. It appears… that appears to be what happened.
And he was able to log in as my Chris and send thousands and thousands and thousands of emails.
Which, luckily slowed the system down to the point that no more than a few thousand got out, because there was, like, 17,000 in the queue.
So as soon as Mike let me know what was… as soon as Mike posted, and I happened to catch it.
I jumped on the server, I saw what was happening. I, uh, deleted my Chris's account.
And then cleared the queue, and that's…. You know, fix the problem.
But the thousands, the few thousand that had gotten out caused blacklistings at various places.
Uh, but I believe those have all fallen out… fallen off by this point.
That's my understanding.
Does that make sense for everybody?
Yeah. Should we go through and purge?
Yeah.
Accounts that haven't been used on there, like this guy, what's his name?
Gary M?
Well, Gary M. Has his own partition now with his 14,000 gigabytes worth of crap email that he hasn't looked at in 25 years.
Yeah. You know, you could get, uh, get your own little chat GPT thing to look at that for you, so you could ask questions of it.
All right?
This is true.
I think we already have that. We've had it in Unix for decades.
Global regular expression and print. Some people call it grip.
Hmm. Yeah.
Alright, so I'm just gonna get to this quote.
Anything else to say about that?
I will just add that…. This is a relatively normal thing.
For any…. Mid-sized email server.
A friend of mine that owns an ISP. As a server, go through something like this.
Once every 18 months.
Do you say once every 10 months, or 2 months?
1-8. As in, 2 times 9.
Yeah, I think change frequently to annual.
So I'm just gonna score the demo.
8 sections here.
Yes, sir.
That's it, just making it more comfortable. Balls here that will turn in.
Fairly annual occurrence for an organization of our size. Okay.
Sure.
Cameras and hard drives, microphones, projectors…. We still got them.
You know where they are.
It's not springy or anything.
Yeah. Attendance database….
Um….
Works fine. Uh, planning, schedule, and report database.
Broken.
My workaround….
Build it, or uh…. Not build it, uh….
Update it. In a….
Virtual machine.
Using…. Older.
Distro.
I've got a write-up. That's, like….
That long? And it's not complete.
And I've been considering posting it on sysadmin. Or even on discuss, because….
Seems like to be a reoccurring…. Infrequent.
Bug that the developers say is not a bug? Because it's occurred off and on since….
To various people. Um… since about….
2012, or 2014? Yeah.
Essentially, what it amounts to is, uh. To leave her office.
Database, uh, is off by one day.
On the output. On a broken database, and I'm….
And it's one of those problems that the…. The developers say they don't see the problem.
They can't see it. And, uh….
It's long and involved, put it that way.
Yep. Apparently.
Date and time is a perpetual source of bugs.
Um, but compounds the issue is LibreOffice is trying to transition from their standard.
Built-in database. Called, uh, HQ… HQLS?
Ql, something like that. You know, trying to transition to a thing called Firebird.
I think? And they did a transition, and then they backed out of it because they ran into too many problems.
Right?
And… I had been considering…. To trying to transition from that to….
Either MySQL or. Mariadb, or….
Or postcase, QL, or whatever the hell, you know, something. And… my last 3 months have been so overwhelming, everything breaking… I mean, everything. That was just….
The icing on the cake.
And… hmm…. I've spent days and days working on it.
To the point where…. I found a workaround that.
There's a lot of work. But it worked. But Gary doesn't read the damn thing anyway, so what difference does it make?
Does it work around? What you're gonna have.
Yeah, it works around. What I have to do is I have to install an older version of.
Lennox Mint. In a virtual box, and then load.
A previous version of the database in there. Because something….
Breaks it, hurled her up in a newer versions of. Leave her office on….
The newer version. Leave, uh, Linux Mint.
And…. Apparently, it's something that breaks inside the particular database file.
In my opinion.
Yeah.
That's good chill.
Garius left the room for… to do something secret.
Ooh!
He better share his winning lottery number.
No.
Um…. Yeah, I'm… I'm trying to….
Flesh out my write-up so that it's understandable. Just…. Just explaining the problem is horrendous.
You know, whatever. Anyway….
If you want to send me an email of it. For review, and….
Seeing if things make sense.
Yeah. Okay, I'll… I'll do that, because….
I wanted it…. Yeah, maybe some input at this point might help me… help….
Clarify a lot of things, so….
Or at least I can…. Hopefully ask intelligent questions, things that.
At this point, any questions would probably be intelligent compared to what I've got.
You and…. Well, you know, it's kind of one of those things when you're teaching somebody something new.
You've forgotten so many things that you don't know what you need to show.
Yeah, that's part of it, yeah, there's…. I, you know… what I've got is after I was 4 days into it, I went back and tried to reconstruct what I.
But I did, here and there. Everywhere.
Barry's back in the room now. We can quit talking about him.
Yeah. Uh….
No change on handout.
Not enough time.
Um…. Organizational papers.
Gary, you remember those?
Helped by gravity.
Okay. When the poles shift, we're all in trouble, right?
Anything to say about sponsorships?
No change? Help me check.
We have any new business to deal with.
Oh, there is something new, uh…. That, uh….
That's the 2038 unique time counter rollover presentation thing. You mentioned it last time, or time before, was that….
You're saying we need to do a presentation on that, or what?
Because I had an entry in the planning schedule. It talked about that.
Pointed out 2038. Eve?
Like, you know…. Kind of like the Y2K problem thing.
The… yeah, that's upcoming.
In 2038.
Yeah. Unix timestamp counter overflows.
What happens in 2038.
Oh….
And everything sets to the year 1901?
Uh, no, should go back to 1970. Presuming it's, uh….
Is it currently a 32-bit counter?
Yeah, I've… I've read that there's been some…. Some work done on that, but….
Yeah. The thing I remember….
Gary wanted to do…. Or thought about doing a presentation on boroughs.
We think we identified where in St. Louis they started. As their 140th anniversary.
Comes to be, I think, isn't that early next year, Gary?
Is it either January or February? It's already on our calendar.
And yeah, it's in January 20th. For 26.
I'll already get that new section.
What about that? I mean…. I mean, I'm aware of what it is. Do we need to….
Planned for that as a presentation? I don't expect that I'll be here in 2038.
Honestly.
I… don't know. Um.
Oh, I saw a thing on the… in passing Steve Gibson's, uh.
Thing for tomorrow is, uh, is…. His notes, he mentions that, uh.
Daniel Suarez is…. Book, um….
Hail Mary, they're making a movie!
Huh.
If I remember….
That's the one about the….
Got one or two books that would be fantastic if it would be made into a movie.
And I… it doesn't relate to the timeline, but…. It's either problem with the….
A Mars expedition, or asteroid Expedition, I forget which.
Science fiction. And, uh….
How do you spell Burroughs?
B-o-r-o-u-g-h-s, it's on the third line from the bottom that has text on it.
Burroughs is spelled as B-U-R-R.
Can't hear you, Gary.
B-o-u-r?
B-o-r-o-u-g-h-s.
Delete the U under the….
I'm looking for the finger, okay? Yeah.
Third line of… okay.
2, 1, 2, 3….
I don't know what to call that. What do we want to say about those two items?
Different items. It's nice…. People of a younger age should know that 19… or in 2038.
Crap's gonna get the van, and they…. We have to rebuild the Y2K problem.
So you're saying we should do some pres… a presentation?
And same on the Burroughs thing? But that's coming up real soon, right?
That's January… January what? Next… next year, 26th?
I mean….
Basically, it'd be nice if anyone from Burroughs Corporation. Step up and say.
Bucks are not burrows, unices. So, are you handling… contacting them?
Find somebody.
It's gonna give me about 5 months to find something.
And as I mentioned before. Thing I find odd, I mean, there was a borough's office pre-pandemic.
On Washington Avenue. Downtown St. Louis. But, uh….
Through this last few months when I checked, it's no longer there, so….
They were here just to deal with some federal contracts.
Gary, are you saying something?
He is… Stan can hear him, he's….
I get tired of telling him he's muted.
Or, my brain goes vid.
Wow.
Let's see… 25…. What do we got? Uh….
Okay, now I've got the mute off. Yeah, so Burroughs, 140th anniversary is in….
Yeah, so boroughs, 140th anniversary is in. January 20th.
That's fair.
January the 20th. Coming up in… what would that be, 5 months?
Coming up in, what, 5 months?
And to the best of my knowledge, Unisys has closed the office in St. Louis. It's no longer located on Washington Avenue.
6 months. And to the best of my knowledge, Unisys has closed the office in St. Louis. It's no longer located on Washington Avenue.
And I haven't found any other reference on UNICYS documentation to a new St. Louis office.
And I haven't found any other reference on Eunice's documentation to a new St. Louis office.
So, uh…. They used to have a number of employees in that office. I don't know if that means they all just work.
So, uh…. The fact that they used to have a number of employees in that office, I don't know if that means they all just work from home or what, so….
Yeah, if anybody has any ideas of who at Unisys we might contact.
Otherwise, I'll just stumble around and see if I can find something.
But yeah, if anybody has any ideas of who at Unisys we might contact, I'm all ears. Otherwise, I'll just stumble around and see if I can find somebody.
I suggest you post something on Discuss if you're looking for them.
Yep, you're right, I should, I should.
As I say that we should do this, and we should do that.
If you had a social media presence, I would ask there.
Yeah.
I hate social media. Got it.
Right now.
I've got a, uh….
I've got an account somewhere on something, what the hell is it called?
The other side of the coin…. Is I would think that somebody in….
City of St. Louis, St. Louis area. Just as far as promoting St. Louis's history.
City of St. Louis, or St. Louis area. You know, just as far as promoting St. Louis's history.
In commerce and computing. You know, I would think somebody….
Developers and computing. Pick somebody….
Does the city have, uh, some kind of office that does that kind of stuff, promoting the….
Promoting? Motor neuron?
Promoting, uh…. What do they call it? Uh….
Tourism? And adjacent to tourism, uh….
Tourism? Or a historian? Something like that?
Or a historian, something like that?
Yeah, maybe a city historian type thing? Of course.
Of course. The way they constantly screw up, I doubt they have one.
The way they grew up.
God. Any other new business. I think we've….
Any other?
Just touched on this. Yeah, so….
Uh… yeah, and it was something which I thought we were talking about up in the.
Calendar section, uh…. Stan pointed out previously.
Standpoint, uh, previously. The month of July, and an extra week.
I believe the month of July has an extra week, or an empty week at the end.
Grant and I kind of talked about that a little bit earlier, and….
Granted….
We're thinking it's…. You probably just don't want to do anything with those… that extra week.
Okay.
You know, I mean…. Yeah.
Are not a meeting.
Yeah. You know.
If people get….
You know. We're stretched enough to come up with our standard stuff, we could just spit that into a standard meeting.
Yes, sir.
Whether it be a base, or a main, or a…. St. Louis Lynch.
Whether they…. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I'm not suggesting we do a presentation, but kind of like we did when Craig was in town.
Uh, just say, okay. We're gonna meet at….
Yeah.
Nick and Elena's…. On whatever day that week.
Nick and Elaine is…. That we… column three.
If you want to come, come. There ain't gonna be a presentation, we're just gonna eat.
Eat pizza, drink beer. I would suggest….
Eat pizza and drink beer.
Okay, go ahead. Have people at least start up the internet.
Take a head count. Have people at least stand up and say their name.
Mm-hmm. Besides…. Because, you know.
Besides doing a sign-in sheet. Because you know….
As always, you asked…. Who was there? Mm-hmm.
As always, you've asked me later on who was there. And if I'm not gonna be there.
Mm-hmm. Oh, show one.
You're gonna need to… you'll still want to know.
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yeah.
Plus, having everybody…. Say their name would promote.
Would promote…. Um, interact.
Um, interaction and talking and…. And musical chairs would be a good idea, too.
That's true, yeah. And….
Now, the other thing is…. We're gonna have the meeting possible.
Okay. Uh, now the other thing is, you know, the guy from Red Hat in that meeting last month.
I said, yeah, I gotta talk to my boss about actually getting….
Earlier this month, uh…. You know, said, yeah, I gotta talk to my boss about actually getting.
Getting the marketing to give us some money to….
Getting marketing to give us some money to have a…. Beer and pizza party. Uh, so I can throw it back to the guy from Red Hat and say, hey.
The guy with the red hat, and say, hey. This open week at the end of July.
There's an open week at the end of July. We know where we can get a room and a restaurant.
The restaurant, they've done it for us. You guys want to do your Red Hat meeting the same night?
They've done it for us before. You know, you guys want to do your Red Hat meeting the same night?
Fine. If they provide a speaker and a talk.
Did they provide a speaker and a talk? I guess I would.
They just want to get together and say, this is a….
I guess I wouldn't object, but…. If they just want to get together and say, this is a….
St. Louis Lug and a Red Hat meeting. Okay.
The St. Louis lug and a Red Hat meeting. Okay.
Anybody got any opposition to that?
No.
I do not.
Hearing none, I think I'll probably just try and call the guy from Red Hat and see what response I get.
I think I'll probably just try and….
Hey! Sorry. Sorry.
Sorry.
Ouch. New business we had last time was….
Uh, new bit….
That bottom entry there, AT&T, BGB change means Omnitech needs to update config.
Do we need to put that somewhere and…. System admin….
System admin. Hey, Lee, how's it sand with that?
Something?
Lee?
Yeah, Gary, what's up?
That AT&T BGP change, is that…. Uh, still something looming?
Or behind you, or…. Yeah.
Oh, oh, here? Uh, I got the ASN this week.
I haven't had time to address it, so the next task is to build a router so I can broadcast it.
But we've got till the end of August to do that, so it's looming, but it's under control.
Okay. Third.
Sorry, I'm sitting here and yakking with my…. Best friend that can….
Swing a hammer, and uh… we're trying to…. We're trying to figure out how to finish this project the next day.
Day and a half, or next day.
You guys got chased inside by the rainstorm, huh? Yeah.
Brainstorm them. Yep.
Yeah? Of course, there wasn't that much light left anyway.
You know, but I don't have enough floodlights to set up out there, and that wouldn't be a lot of….
A lot of fun.
By taking its, uh…. Your house, or your neighbor's house, or something?
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, it's my shit. I had the slab poured last year, and it took me until a month ago to get the drainage figured out.
And once you got the drainage done, the contractor didn't want to do it, he was too busy, so I called Kendall and said, hey, you want to make a few bucks?
I should know better next time.
Before you say, quantify a few, and I'm… bribes.
It's always interesting.
Yeah, let's see, where are you? Oh, recurrent Requirements? Yeah, I think we're… okay.
Had a scare at the post office a couple weeks ago.
Yeah.
I check it, you know. Once a week, something like that.
But he didn't work. And they had moved it. They changed… they shuffled them around.
Yeah, and I looked at the bill. Well, the bill was paid in January for a year, so it….
Oh, shoot!
What'd they move?
It can't be something I screwed up. No. So….
Post office box.
Remove the box.
Couple days later, I had to pick up something at the window, and I said, hey.
Would you double-check 441? 411302, my key doesn't work.
She said, okay, give me a minute, you know, who's the account? You know, they know me, I'm in there every other day picking up packages.
And you say, here, here's new keys for you. Apparently, when they moved it.
You know, like, a foot down from where it was, they had to change the locks for some reason.
And didn't bother to tell me. They just put them in the box.
So how am I supposed to get the new keys if my key… if my old key doesn't work in the box?
Talk to the person. It's like, how do you get scissors.
That's a classic.
Out of the plastic package that they are in. Mm-hmm.
You gotta use another pair of scissors.
Our box cutter.
I always have a pocket knife.
I love it.
I need to restructure this whole section here. Because I look back at some of the notes, and it says, is that.
Nope. Is that…?
When did I type that? When did it apply, and…. You know, some of it just doesn't make any sense sometimes.
Apply. Some of this….
And of course, I can't get Gary to spend enough time with me to….
Go through this and make any sense of it by myself.
Yeah, of course. I can't get Gary.
Together. It might be nice.
Together. Well, maybe we can get that done before next month.
I've heard that before.
I've heard that. Yeah.
Um…. So it looks like we have a couple of domains coming up for renewal.
Within the next 60 days.
Let's see, scroll down a bit, Stan.
Well, it's, like, 3 lines there. August slack.org, and newlinux.org.
I take care of those.
Right. I'm just…. Bringing it up.
Scroll down a bit, Stan. There we go. Okay, now we can see it.
Does any of that make sense to you?
Mm-hmm. Not sure…. Buying 2 years once, then 1 additional.
Year each year.
Um. That way, you're… you always have….
A year buffer.
So why is that one? Next year, just buy nothing.
So by 2 years now, and then next year. Just by another year.
Oh, I see what you're saying, yeah, yeah.
I mean, every year after, you buy one, so if the date… oh, crap, I missed it!
You've… you've got 11 and a half months left, type thing. Not a….
Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Oh, crap, can I get it recovered? Type thing.
That does make sense, yeah.
Okay. That might be a good idea.
Okay. I mean, we love talking.
Are we done with that section? I mean, we do… a lot of times, we just kinda….
Yeah. Yeah, I…. I think we are. Nothing coming up in September, huh?
Breeze through there.
Nothing yet.
Okay.
See the pawpaws are in August.
Man, that's good. Alrighty. I guess move on.
Did anybody do anything useful?
Oh, Mike?
Mike Knight, as usual. Spotted.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was a good catch.
Bam. And of course, worked it out with Lee.
Are we gonna…. That's what I know wolf.
Are we gonna need to do any blue sky stuff?
Grant? Steve?
Grant?
Not that I'm aware of.
Alrighty.
Lee? Very good. We need to do any blue sky, or are we just gonna adjourn the meeting?
I'm sorry, Stan, what was the first guy. Oh. Uh, no, I don't have anything.
Okay. I think the horse is dead.
Cool!
Thank you, Grant. Thank you, Steve.
You want to adjourn the meeting?
Yep, I guess we are adjourned at 9 o'clock on the nose, ding, ding, ding, ding.
Thank you, Lee. Good night.
Good night. Oh, hey, Stan.
Nhd. Yeah.
I downloaded…. What?
Is the recording turned off? Is the recording turned off?
I think so.
Were they even on? They were on at one point, I guess.
I…. I don't know, I had so much trouble getting in, and it took, like, an hour and a half, so who knows? I don't have any idea.
Oh. Oh