00:53:10 Steve Gomez: I 00:53:38 Steve Gomez: I'm guessing you meant CRC instead of checksum. 01:28:27 hiral yadav: Joined late Bootable containers means hot containers or preloaded containers? 01:29:39 Craig B (55, Long Beach, CA): Sorry, I got here late, so I didn't get the gist right away. IIUC, this allows Docker images to be used in a full VM, as opposed to a container, correct? 01:31:06 hiral yadav: Replying to "Sorry, I got here la..." Means it has its own kernel and does not depend on VM? 01:31:31 Craig B (55, Long Beach, CA): Replying to "Sorry, I got here la..." Yeah, I think that's the distinction. 01:32:22 Craig B (55, Long Beach, CA): Replying to "Sorry, I got here la..." And maybe the way it uses layers? 01:33:15 hiral yadav: Ok then why need container? We can directly use vm? 01:33:40 Craig B (55, Long Beach, CA): Replying to "Ok then why need con..." containers have a lot less overhead than a full VM. 01:33:53 Craig B (55, Long Beach, CA): Replying to "Ok then why need con..." But VMs are more secure. 01:34:52 hiral yadav: Replying to "Ok then why need con..." Ya Are you aware about realtime use cases we use bootable containers? 01:34:53 Craig B (55, Long Beach, CA): Replying to "Ok then why need con..." There are other differences, but overhead and security are the major trade-offs. 01:35:10 Grant T.: Replying to "Sorry, I got here la..." I dare say that you can use a separate kernel for containers a la. User Mode Linux. UML kernel is the process in a container in the host OS that provides a new kernel for the rest of the container. 😈 01:35:40 hiral yadav: Reacted to "There are other diff..." with 👍 01:36:13 Craig B (55, Long Beach, CA): Replying to "Ok then why need con..." That sounds like a good question about realtime for @Matt Hargrave. 01:37:00 hiral yadav: Replying to "Ok then why need con..." Ya we should ask him 01:39:27 Matt Hargrave: https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/jumpstart-gitops-image-mode 01:52:43 Craig B (55, Long Beach, CA): Replying to "Sorry, I got here la..." The kernel running as a process - I forgot about that option. Honestly, it sounds like a really good compromise between a VM and a container. But now we have 3 options to weigh the pros and cons. 01:53:26 hiral yadav: Reacted to "The kernel running a..." with 😕 02:05:11 hiral yadav: Replying to "Sorry, I got here la..." Thank you guys, learnt something new. Good evening ahead everyone! Thanks @Craig B (55, Long Beach, CA) 🙂 02:08:11 Craig B (55, Long Beach, CA): Reacted to "Thank you guys, lear..." with đŸ‘đŸ» 02:12:28 Grant T.: Asahi Linux is one of the first Linux distros for Apple M series architecture: https://asahilinux.org/ 02:12:55 Milan Thapa: Reacted to "Asahi Linux is one o..." with 👍 02:12:59 Tyler R: Asahi Linux 02:13:12 Tyler R: https://asahilinux.org/ 02:16:02 Tim W: To minimize compute. 02:16:53 Tim W: when "compute" is a monolothic resource in a cloud and you want to use less of it to squeeze more functionality out of it... is how i understand it 02:17:25 Grant T.: Wouldn’t normal (fat) containers use fewer resources than VMs? 02:21:19 Craig B (55, Long Beach, CA): Replying to "Wouldn’t normal (fat..." Yeah, he said that, and that we will basically have a system layer in a VM image, and several application images running in containers on that VM. 02:22:05 Craig B (55, Long Beach, CA): Replying to "Wouldn’t normal (fat..." And it's nice that we can manage them both with mostly the same tools. 02:22:07 Grant T.: Replying to "Wouldn’t normal (fat..." @Craig B (55, Long Beach, CA) I believe that comment was about containers on Windows. 02:24:57 Craig B (55, Long Beach, CA): Replying to "Wouldn’t normal (fat..." Ah. He said running a container on Windows or MacOS uses a Linux VM underneath. So you don't get any of the performance advantages of containers 02:25:30 Grant T.: Reacted to "Ah. He said running ..." with 💯 02:53:03 Steve Gomez: Replying to "Wouldn’t normal (fat..." Hey Craig, I used to live in Long Beach... way back in '72 '73. 02:55:09 Craig B (55, Long Beach, CA): Replying to "Wouldn’t normal (fat..." I was but a wee lad back then. I lived in STL ~50 years, then moved here. 02:57:34 Steve Gomez: Replying to "Wouldn’t normal (fat..." I was in Junior High, would walk to school from Ximeno & PCH to Will Rogers Jr High. 02:58:13 Craig B (55, Long Beach, CA): Replying to "Wouldn’t normal (fat..." How do you pronounce Ximeno and Junipero? 😄 03:01:42 Steve Gomez: Replying to "Wouldn’t normal (fat..." I'm pretty sure it was a hack, but Ex-em-in-oh, remember seeing Junipero, but never tried it. Fun, and exciting fact, I was in Long Beach when that earthquake hit LA in '73. Quite an exciting morning! 03:12:36 Matt Hargrave: https://kove.com/ 03:23:54 Grant T.: Sun Datacenter Switch 3456 System 03:26:14 Tony Zafiropoulos: Thanks for the presentation!!!! Til next time 03:26:20 Brian B: @Tony Zafiropoulos 7 Best Local AI Models for CPU (March 2026) Reviews & Tests 03:28:17 Matt Hargrave: I have to head out. Thanks again for allowing me to present! 03:28:45 Brian B: Thank you 03:30:26 Milan Thapa: Thank you Matt, thank you all, have a good one!