The UNIX® CRONicle

December 1999

Official Publication of the STL!/unix/usr/group

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Table of Contents


Next Meeting Details

Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 6:30 PM
Sunnen Products, 7910 Manchester

6:30 PM Tutorial None This Month - Presentation Starts Early
6:31 PM Announcements (Standard Introductions & Procedure )

6:35 PM Call For Help (An opportunity for you to ask technical questions of the group)

6:45 PM Presentation High Speed Home Internet Access by a panel of five
7:20 PM Admittance to building may no longer be possible See Meeting Directions

8:00 PM Break Social, off-line conversations, & book sales

8:20 PM Continue High Speed Home Internet Access by a panel of five

Tutorial

None This Month - Presentation Starts Early

Abstract:

Due to the expected length of the presentation panel we have decided to forego our usual monthly tutorial in favor of allowing more time for the main topic.

Presentation

High Speed Home Internet Access by a panel of five

Abstract:
BROADBAND ISP SERVICE TO YOUR HOUSE. Conventional modems have reached their speed limit but now new technologies have become available :such as satellite (ex. Direct PC), aDSL and sDSL on your old phone lines, wireless (radio/microwave), and cable modems. 5 vendors, each representing a technology, will participate in a panel discussion and question period to compare their advantages.

Panel Companies:
Primary Phonix Charter Worknet Hughes

For more info contact Gary Meyer by sending mailto:gary@mail.sluug.org .

[ Editor's Notes:

The October 1999 issue of Scientific America does a feature article on exactly our topics. They have a couple of pages on EACH of the technologies.
So, if anyone wants to do their homework and read up before the meeting, see your friendly neighborhood public library.

The O'Reilly and Associates line of books is available at each monthly general meeting as a convenience to our members.

Monday 28 Nov
General Motors announced that it was considering selling part of the 67% interest they own in Hughes Electronics. Hughes Electronics is the parent of Hughes Network (Direct TV & Direct PC among other offerings), Hughes Satellite (builds the birds), and majority owner of PanAm Sat (opertes satellites). GM stock rose after the announcement.

Tues 29 Nov
There is a petition being circulated in the City of St.L. to overturn the recently signed law requiring the cable operator (currently AT&T) to provide equal service to competing ISPs.

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Special Promotion(s)

blue triangle right Title of the Month

The 25% discount special will be on all JAVA books. Get a free Tee Shirt with any $30 purchase.

All regularly priced titles are 10% off retail cost at the general meeting.
(Excludes featured, or specially priced or promotional items)
O'Reilly Logo

The O'Reilly and Associates line of books is available at each monthly general meeting as a convenience to our members.

Each month features a book related to that month's presentation or tutorial topic.

Discounts off retail cost are offered to all members and each month's featured book(s) may be additionally discounted. Usually, all titles are discounted 10%, while special titles are discounted 25%.


Upcoming Events

[St. Louis UNIX Users Group stuff]
SLUUG General Meeting December 8, 1999 at 6:30 PM
Sunnen Products
7910 Manchester (at Hanley)
St. Louis, MO

Steering Committee December 14, 1999 at 6:00 PM
Daugherty Systems
One City Place (2nd floor)
Creve Coeur, MO

Macintosh Users December 14, 1999
See http://www.gamug.org/ iBook raffel $5

Linux SIG December 16, 1999 at 7:00 PM
See http://www.sluug.org/sluugls/
( TOPIC: ) Something Really Good by Some One
Indian Trails Library
8400 Delport Drive (at Midland)
St. Louis, MO

Perl Mongers January 6, 2000
See http://stlouis.pm.org/

SLUUG General Meeting January 12, 2000

Steering Committee January 18, 2000

Linux SIG January 20, 2000


Meeting Directions

The STL!/unix/usr/group meets the 2nd Wednesday of every month at Sunnen Products, 7910 Manchester Blvd, just east of Hanley on Manchester.

Directions From Downtown

  1. Take 40 West to the Hanley exit.
  2. Turn left (south) onto Hanley.
  3. Turn left (east) onto Manchester, then turn right ASAP into the Sunnen Products driveway.

See map at http://www.sluug.org/info/sunnen.html

(NOTE: A security guard from Sunnen is scheduled to be at the door from 6:20 PM to 7:20 PM to allow entry. After 7:20, the door will be unattended and attendees may not be able to enter.)

The SLUUG Steering Committee meets the Tuesday following the general meeting at 6:00 PM in the 2nd floor training room of Daugherty Systems, One City Place in Creve Coeur.

The SLUUG Linux SIG (SLUUGLS) meets the 3rd Thursday of every month at the Indian Trails Public Library.

See map at http://www.stllinux.org/directions/


Article(s): The following article(s) express(es) personal opinions and SLUUG exerts no more editorial control over such content than does a public library, bookstore, or newsstand. Any opinions, advice, statements, services, offers, or other information or Content expressed herein are those of the respective author(s) and not necessarily supported by SLUUG. SLUUG does not guarantee the accuracy, completeness, or usefulness of any content, nor its merchantability or fitness for any particular purpose.
Elections Approaching by Gary Meyer

Elections are rapidly approaching. SLUUG holds officer elections at our February meetings. If you are interested in an officers position, or would like more information about the administrative duties for the organization, please visit our website at http://www.sluug.org/

Please contact Rich Seibel by sending mailto:rich@mail.sluug.org if you need more specific information on the offices or other aspects of the SLUUG professional association.


Attendance Survey Results - New Holes

Below are results of the attendance & survey sheets collected at the...

SLUUG General meeting on 10 November 1999:

  • 38 Actual head count.
  • 20 Attendance & survey sheets were turned in.
  • 4 attendees requested to be subsribed to our email newsletter.

    Results of each question on our OPTIONAL survey/questionaire:

    1. Tutoral (only at General meeting):

  • Big Disks & Your Database by Mike Kriz

  • 3 - Excellent
  • 9 - Good
  • 5 - Fair
  • 1 - Late, didn't see.
  • 2 - No response to question

    2. Presentation: Foundation Suite - A Logical Volume Manager by Timothy Akin

  • 5 - - Excellent
  • 9 - - Good
  • 3 - - Fair
  • 2 - - Leaving, can't wait.
  • 1 - - No response to question.

    SLUUG COMMENTS:

  • Handled complicated topic well.
  • A log of good discussion, very interesting.
  • Tutorial did not have enough time for big topic.
  • Tutorial had good discussion and no consensus. Presentation scope was bad.
  • Tutorial session was very interesting but didn't really give enough background for dealing with the presentation. It wasn't really a tutorial.

    SLUUG Linux Special Interest Group meeting on 18 November 1999:

  • 60 Actual head count.
  • 29 Attendance & survey sheets were turned in.
  • 13 attendees requested to be subsribed to our email newsletter.

    Results of each question on our OPTIONAL survey/questionaire:

    1. Linux SIG Topic: The Trials & Joys of Installing Linux by Troy DeArmitt

  • 21 - - Excellent
  • 2 - - Good
  • 6 - - No response to question.

    2. What would you like to see.

  • Expert help sessions for newbies
  • A walk thru of the init process.
  • In depth discussion of kernel re-building
  • Someone's favorite post-install config tweeks.
  • Security / Internet / Networking / Sys Admin

    3. What can you present....

  • Those few volunteers will be contacted by Matt Feldt or Gary Meyer.

    Linux SIG COMMENTS:

  • Best presentation in years.
  • This guy is funny. He should try PKO!
  • Humerous and remanicent of my early Linux days.
  • Perhaps a little more explanation for those just learing. Thanks.
  • This was great! Thanks for relating the experience and putting up with our kidding. We will take the [speakers] suggestion to heart.
  • Need to make a HTML file that has meeting times, mainling lists, web addresses, etc. to display at the begining of each meeting. Make one each for Windoze diskette and Linux diskette.

    OBSERVATIONS:
    This was was an excellent turn out with 13 requests for SLUUG newsletter. Wave Technologies donation of over 50 copies of Calderia 2.2 was the best give away feeding frenzy in months.

    OPINION:
    We might get more attendance sheets returned if we would tie them to the giveaways; but, with 50 copies of anything it would be even more frantic.


    Quotations

    Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
    -- Henry Spencer

    At the November General SLUUG meeting:

    Cable modems give a whole new meaning to Network Neighborhood.
    -- Tom Parsons

    At the November Linux SIG meeting:

    What's with you Micro$oft guys and reinstalling the OS?
    -- Matthew (Matt) Feldt from 3 Nov 99

    Just think how long it would have taken you to mount the CD, if you hadn't been logged on as root!
    -- Stanford (Stan) Baldwin

    Seen on Slashdot:

    If Bill Gates had a nickel for every time Windows crashed...
    ..oh wait, he does. -- Nate Fox (natefox@NOSPAM.csulb.edu)



    Guru's Corner in January submitted by Editor

    In January a small group of those that are bored with the tutorials will meet in the secondary room, behind the main presentation area. Attendance will not be by invatation; but, lurkers and wantabees will be embarassed and urged to leave. Subject matter will be refereed by Rich Seibel.

    Suspenders and pocket protector optional. Bring your slide rules.

    Do you have what it takes to run with the Guru?

    Please contact Rich Seibel by sending mailto:rich@mail.sluug.org if you have suggestions for this experiment.


    Almost Free Books submitted by Editor

    Card holders can request items the St. Louis County Library should acquire, and suggest items currently not owned by the library

    Use this site to request items that are not in the catalog or titles that are on order.
    http://www.slcl.lib.mo.us/iii/on_order_holds.htm

    or if you prefer: http://199.181.178.210/

    They have gotten four of the six books that I'v requested in the last two months. Linux books seem to be high interest, so not a problem. They apparently will usually not order any books that have tear out sections in them.

    Non-Linux, Unix specific books above a certain price will require more demand before they start to order them. So, start requesting!


    Personal Commentary submitted by Almost Anybody

    The following PERSONAL COMMENTARY expresses personal opinions and SLUUG exerts no more editorial control over such content than does a public library, bookstore, or newsstand. Any opinions, advice, statements, services, offers, or other information or Content expressed herein are those of the respective author and not necessarily supported by SLUUG. SLUUG does not guarantee the accuracy, completeness, or usefulness of any content, nor its merchantability or fitness for any particular purpose.

    Seen on Slashdot:

    Windows hasn't increased computer literacy. It's just lowered the standard.


    Special Interest Groups (SIGS)

    As our membership grows, we have had some inquiries about the possibility of having Special Interest Groups in several areas. If you are interested in starting or participating in a SIG for System Administration, Networking, C, Object Oriented Programming, a specific vendor, etc., please call Dave Mills at 230-5151, extension 103, or contact any officer of the group.


    St. Louis Unix Users Group - Linux SIG (SLUUGLS)

    Visit the Linux SIG home page (http://www.stllinux.org/) for the latest meeting details.

    LOCATION DIRECTIONS:
    Indian Trails Public Library
    8400 Delport Drive
    (at Midland)
    (314)-428-5424
    Follow 170: Exit Page east to North-South Rd., go left on North-South Rd. to Midland, go left on Midland one block to Delport, the Library is on your left (see map at http://www.stllinux.org/directions/).

    For more information on SLUUGLS refer to the WWW home page for the group at http://www.stllinux.org/ or contact Matthew Feldt by mailto:linux@www.feldt.com


    Computer Telephony Integration User's Group (SLUUG CiTI)

    The CTI SIG is no longer having regular meetings and is currently using a webboard format.

    The Computer Telephony Integration (CTI) Users Group is a non-profit organization open to developers, end-users, sales people, and others who share the common interest of melding the telecommunications and computing worlds.

    For more information on SLUUG CiTI contact Tony Zafiropoulos by mailto:tonyz@ctitek.com or (314)878-9855.


    Digital Alpha SIG

    The Digital Alpha SIG is for those interested in Digital UNIX and the DEC Alpha architecture. Visit the Digital Alpha SIG's home at http://www.sluug.org/~newton/asighome.html for more information.


    St. Louis UNIX Users Group Steering Committee

    The SLUUG Steering Committee meets the Tuesday following the general 2nd Wednesday meeting at 6:00 PM in the 2nd floor training room of Daugherty Systems, One City Place in Creve Coeur. The guard can direct you to the meeting location. Anyone is welcome to attend. If you would like to become more involved in the planning of SLUUG, feel free to join us at the next Steering Committee meeting. Meetings usually last 1.5 to 2 hours.


    Sponsors

  • Analysts International http://www.analysts.com/
  • Andersen Consulting http://www.ac.com/
  • CIBER, Inc. http://www.ciber.com/
  • Cypress Systems, Ltd. http://www.cypress-systems.com/
  • Daugherty Systems http://www.daugherty.com/
  • Informix Corporation http://www.informix.com/
  • Maryville Data Systems, Inc. http://www.maryville.com/
  • O'Reilly & Associates http://www.ora.com/
  • Phoenix Networks http://www.pnix.net/
  • Phoenix Networks http://www.phoenixnetworks.net/
  • Renaissance Worldwide, Inc. http://www.rens.com/
  • Sun Microsystems http://www.sun.com/
  • Sunnen Products http://www.sunnen.com/
  • Sykes Enterprises, Inc. http://www.sykes.com/
  • Venmar Systems, Inc. http://www.venmar.com/

  • The Law Offices of Rich McLennan, send mailto:mclennan@mail.sluug.org

    For more information about sponsoring the St. Louis UNIX Users Group, contact Ed Wehner, send mailto:wehner@mail.sluug.org.


    SLUUG on the World Wide Web

    The St. Louis UNIX Users Group maintains a WWW page at http://www.sluug.org/. Visit us to learn more about who we are and what we do, visit other UNIX user groups' WWW pages, sign up for a SIG, or just to browse.


    SLUUG Administration is volunteer based.

    SLUUG is looking for volunteers to help with presentations, web page development, managing corporate sponsorships, and many other tasks. If you would like to help out, contact Chris Wanta by mailto:cfw1@mail.sluug.org or visit http://www.sluug.org/~cfw1/help.html.


    /usr/groups/other

    We publish other user group meeting schedules on a reciprocal basis. If you are a member of another non-profit group, please inform them of our policy and invite them to exchange meeting information by mailto:editor@mail.sluug.org, or call any of the SLUUG officers.


    Contacts

    BBS Questions Jim (Knight) Ford mailto:knight@mail.sluug.org
    Corporate Sponsors Ed Wehner mailto:wehner@mail.sluug.org
    Newsletter
    Submissions
    Editorial team: mailto:editor@mail.sluug.org
    Publisher Sanjiv Bhatia Home: (314)519-9272
    Work: (314)516-6520
    FAX: (314)516-5400
    mailto:sanjiv@aryabhat.cs.umsl.edu
    Editor Stan Reichardt Home: (314)298-1183
    mailto:editor@mail.sluug.org
    http://www.sluug.org/~stan
    mailto:stan@mail.sluug.org
    O'Reilly Books Dave Mills Work: (314)230-5151, extension 103
    mailto:mills@mail.sluug.org
    Presentations Open Position Send info/ideas to mailto:gary@mail.sluug.org
    Steering Committee
    Information
    Gary Meyer Home: (314)781-8644
    mailto:gary@mail.sluug.org
    SLUUG Secretary Rich Seible mailto:rich@mail.sluug.org
    SLUUG Treasurer Mike Kriz mailto:kriz@mail.sluug.org
    Special Interest Groups (SIGs)

    Computer Telephony
    Integration (CTI)
    Tony Zafiropoulos Phone: (314)878-9855
    http://www.ctitek.com/ctiusers/ctiusers.html
    mailto:tonyz@ctitek.com
    Linux Matthew Feldt Home: (314)429-5433
    http://www.feldt.com
    mailto:linux@www.feldt.com

    Submitting Articles to the SLUUG CRONicle

    If you would like to submit an article to the CRONicle of general interest to the members of the St. Louis UNIX Users Group,send mailto:editor@mail.sluug.org The deadline for article submissions is two weeks before the next general meeting.


    SLUUG PO Box

    The St. Louis UNIX Users Group has a P.O. box. All official correspondence with SLUUG should now be sent to:

        St. Louis UNIX Users Group
        P.O. Box 411302
        Creve Coeur Post Office
        St. Louis, MO  63141-9998